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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 177 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Well yeah. The market is just an aggregation of sentiment of traders. It hasn't been a reflection of value in ages.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 92 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can you imagine if shares, were for sharing profits with the best workers of a company?

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If shares were for sharing, that would be reflected in the name somehow.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, I guess so. Well at least I have my Asset.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Be sure to hold onto it tightly as you spread those checks.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 month ago

Hey, I would like a share of your ass. too, don't be hoarding that!

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Not quite the same sentiment, but a system of β€œcodetermination”, as followed in Germany and in Elizabeth Warren’s proposals, would make it so worker votes would have a controlling stake in large companies. It’s not a share of profit, but it means they can override unhinged decisions in the boardroom.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

If by "traders" you mean "the ruling class" then yeah

[–] zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It never has been anything but that. "Value" is just a sentiment of a trader. Probably by definition.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It didn't used to be. When it all first started, before the exchanges and before it got very easy to trade, a share was literally just a portion of the company. Directly tied to its value.

Then we got all "efficient" and fucked it right up.

Shares are still just portions of a company.

What was company value back then? What determined it? Price or value of the company was just what buyer was willing to pay for it. And it still is...

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 175 points 1 month ago

My preferred version:

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Red makes the line go faster, boss.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The greatest realization of the stock market was learning it was how people felt and no real mathematical decisions or even educated guesses. "President Trump woke up with a headache today and took Tylenol for it." Tylenol stocks skyrocket No logic, just reactions.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

so many of my friends work in brokerages. It’s actually really sad how many millionaires calling them acting like the entire world is ending at 2 am. Every single fucking day.

It’s like having a permanent baby to look after.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

When you have money that's all you're worried about it appears as well.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yup. Apparently winning isn't really winning.

[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

If the investments you're making are beyond your risk tolerance - you fucked up.

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A few years ago, I set my mind to understanding stock market investing. It had always looked intimidating, but I have a couple of degrees that required me to pass chemistry, physics, and engineering courses - I figured I could learn if I put my mind to it.

What I discovered was that the stock market is mainly hype. For all the formulae and Greek letters that look complex and deter the general public, the emperor is really wearing no clothes.

Stock prices rarely follow fundamental analysis of value, and rather mostly pre-empt news cycles due to insider trading. And technical analysis seems to be a bunch of fortune tellers who think they have discovered Newtonian calculus by drawing tangent lines off cherry picked data.

Furthermore, the entire system supports the enshittification of our economy. When a company is supposed to make MORE profit every quarter rather than just maintain profitability, it leads to lower quality goods and services and worsening work conditions.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I realised this a while ago, and it's frankly baffling to me that anyone can pretend it has any direct relationship to how well a company is actually performing. It literally doesn't matter how well a company is performing, if people buy the stocks the price goes up, if they sell the stocks the price goes down. There is no other factor that matters.

The fact that people buying and selling usually correlates with a company doing well or poorly doesn't actually mean those two things are inherently connected.

See also: GameStop

[–] BrinkBreaker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 1 month ago

Didn't like how the line was going back in time

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 10 points 1 month ago

Ok that is neat.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Stock market is just rich people gambling a small portion of their generational wealth.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you ignore all of the retirement accounts.

[–] Frost752@crazypeople.online 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the top 10 percent hold about 93 percent of U.S. households stock market wealth, retirement accounts make up a relatively small portion actually

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that if the stock market crashes it affects people relying on those retirement accounts more than it affects billionaires.

Also, they make a useful hostage when asking for bailouts.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the invisible hand of the market is literally one of the biggest and most powerfull daimons ever propogated by one of the biggest intercommunity faithbased channeling rituals concieved, and STEMcells will still claim magick doesnt exist and that faith cant move mountains. Bro faith literally determines if you get to eat today.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 month ago

This is just textbook the last 50 years of western SE.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do believe in bull-markets. I do, I do!

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[–] zabadoh@ani.social 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)