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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 6 days ago

And dwelled on.

And what happened before that too, for how long, and then before that for how long.

Good job, colonialism. /s

But no, seriously, good job civil rights campaigns. We're not done yet.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 182 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Yeah, no. Segregation magically ending in 1954? The Civil Rights struggles of the 60s didn't happen? Redlining and Ghettoizing of Black communities? Destruction of Black families by mass incarceration of Black males and forcing families to stay apart to collect benefits, while vilifying single Black mothers as "welfare queens"? We have never, ever been in the green.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even slavery is still around.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Hell, there were (are still?) segregated schools up until around 2000. I know at least one wasn't set to desegregate until sometime in the 90s.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember reading about a segregated prom in like 2013

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

while vilifying single Black mothers as “welfare queens”?

You forgot the "best" part: poor people renting apartments end up subsidizing wealthier people living in single-family homes, because suburban sprawl doesn't generate enough tax revenue per acre to fund the infrastructure and services it consumes. The white middle-class bigots doing the vilifying are, themselves, the real welfare queens!

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago

Yeah, wtf. Martin Luther King got shot in 68. They just forgot to tell him that all is well for 14 years?

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[–] wolfrasin@lemmy.today 98 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is the US prison system but slavery with extra steps?

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

there aren't even really extra steps considering slavery is perfectly legal in prisons according to the constitution

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The yellow should be orange and the green should be yellow and labeled "carcereal slavery"

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago

I was going to comment something along these lines with the war on drugs, but legal slavery for imprisoned persons is a huge part of why the war on drugs was pursued and persists.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The civil rights act is from 1964, so even shorter time than the picture shows.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And after that, VRA, loving vs Virginia, fair housing act. Ending segregation was a gradual process that, by many metrics, still isn’t complete, but any date before 1964 or 1968 is a big fat lie.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There were news stories as recent as 2012 about schools in the south being segregated. There are still sundown towns. Segregation only ended on paper.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

If you count incarceration

We do. It is specifically and explicitly an exception in the US Constitution:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Well, American slavery never actually ended, we just call.it prison labor now. Segregation only really ended on paper. It's become less prominent I guess, but it's not gone.

Remember that some places were forced to desegregate in the 1990s.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What’s special about 1619 to be considered the start of American slavery?

[–] airbreather@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamestown%2C_Virginia

In August 1619, the first recorded slaves from Africa to British North America arrived at present-day Old Point Comfort, near the Jamestown colony, on a British privateer ship flying a Dutch flag.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was when enslaved African people were first brought to Jamestown. Exactly when the start is more broadly is kind of harder to say since some things are more disputed

The arrival of the first captives to the Jamestown Colony, in 1619, is often seen as the beginning of slavery in America—but enslaved Africans arrived in North America as early as the 1500s.

https://www.history.com/articles/american-slavery-before-jamestown-1619

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s when England began colonizing the americas. Which is kind of arbitrary since there were slaves in the Americas before that and the founding of The United States of America was over 100 years later.

Green is incarceration and wage slavery

[–] Teppa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Not every white person had a house either, and if they didnt then their family ended up losing a lot of compound growth, and ended up poorer as they payed somebody elses mortgage. What really happened I think is the lack of class mobility due to the financialization of everything, due to unlimited money printing and corporate bailouts.

The average mortgage was 7 years historically and somebody saving a ton could pay it off in under 5 years, instead of the massive 30 year loans backed by the govenment we have now. Its like as we got richer and more productive we simultaneously became poorer and can barely house ourselves, as food quality got cheaper with shrinkflation and industrialization.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Primus~ "Welp, no more slaves unless they are serving time in prison. It's a bummer."

Secundus~ "Well, let's put them in prison."

Primus~ "BRILLIANT"

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Did slavery actually end? i mean you work 9-5 sometimes with unpaid overtime, you get unpaid PTO, you don't get any health insurance, you don't have enough to save something for retirement and you live paycheck to paycheck so it's slavery embellished with being called "work".

[–] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a dumb take. The horrors of capitalism aren't the same as the horrors of slavery.

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[–] janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not to split hairs on moral grounds, but shouldnt it be english slavery up until at least the revolutionary war started?

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

While the Brits outlawed slavery around 1830s for themselves, they had no problem loading slaves onto their ships and smuggling them to the Americas for a good while after. Plus they openly supported the Confederacy throughout the Civil War to keep the cotton rolling in. And of course we don't need to mention colonialism that lasted until after WW2 now, do we? Of course the French, Dutch, Spanish, and Germans also colonized every inch of some else's dirt to exploit them back to the Stone Age. And there was little hesitation to kill any and all that objected the "civilizing" effect of European influence.

And slavery is ongoing even as we speak in certain parts of this world. But we do nothing and care little about that. As long as they keep it on the down low we need not be overly concerned.

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