French President Emmanuel Macron is calling on medium-sized powers to join forces and stand up to the US and China.
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Europe being hostile towards China isn't exactly news though. It's the break up of the Atlantic alliance that's the real story.
Is Europe's hostility towards China not a function of US hegemony? Surely there's less reason to be hostile now.
In a sane world yes, but in reality there's a lot of racism and notions of white supremacy at play here.
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It is an important distinction though, because standing up to US might imply leaning towards China. But standing up to US and China, implies a third option: Europe need to huddle up together.
Not really sure how that works in practice given that Europe isn't exactly self sufficient, especially in terms of energy.
I was only commenting on the semantic distinction of the two, not the viability of Europe superiority - though beating Murica these days can't be impossible.
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He should ask the last group of countries that strove to be neutral between the USA and a second large power how well that worked for them.
This is all political theatre. European countries continue to host US bases from which operations against Iran are currently being carried out.
Yes, but not all are allowing operations that support the war on Iran
i wonder if it's a cover strategy for getting access to hormuz
He says some bullshit like that every other week or so. He'll be back to being a good vassal next week
Middle powers need friends. US offers only colonial vassal status withe CIA determined rulers. China does not. Just buy stuff because it is best value/cheap. In the prehistory that was 2021, Russia did not vassalize its customers. Just buy their stuff because it was cheapest. Russia is not an imperial power over Europe because of counterbalance. Russia did not threaten/berate EU over green transition. Trump/Biden threatened EU over Nordstream 2. When your master extorts you with energy prices and forced war, you need new friends. The more friends, the more counterbalance for others to be friendlier to you.
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“Our objective is not to be the vassals of two hegemonic powers,” he told students in Seoul. “We don’t want to depend on the dominance, let’s say on China, or we don’t want to be too much exposed to the unpredictability of the US.”
European countries, he said, have a shared agenda with places like Japan and South Korea on issues like international law, democracy, climate change and global health.
European countries, he said, have a shared agenda with places like Japan and South Korea on issues like international law, democracy, climate change and global health.
This reads to me that american vassals in europe have a shared agenda with american vassals in asia.
we don’t want to be too much exposed to the unpredictability of the US.”
The war with Iran was announced in 2001. The unpredictability of the US is that it took them so long.
US being at war is fairly predictable, tbh.
European countries, he said, have a shared agenda with places like Japan and South Korea on issues like international law, democracy, climate change and global health.
Vassals stand together lol
"and China." How is France's manufacturing infrastructure?
Don't underestimate L'oreal industries...
Finally someone says it.
Macron - a true american hero for saying out loud what most people think.
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