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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Scientists: we have some good news and some bad news on the pandemic front.

Public: Gimme the good news first.

Scientists: We're going to solve the housing crisis really quickly.

X/

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That's dark. +1

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[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Future historians will say that Donald the dumb was a plague spreader.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

don't forget RFK Jr who suggest that people drink milk amidst an H5 breakout

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Future historians? I like your optimism.

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Im just worried how bad it can get. 90% fatalities to pregnant women, that high. That's not the COVID 1-2%

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[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time to stop all testing immediately so that there are no cases

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well that drinking raw milk is paying off, congrats. Someone should strap RFK Jr to a chair and make him drink gallons of infected raw milk.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I just hope it kills a lot more Nazi antivax idiots this time

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There will probably be some slant in that direction, but there'll be a much bigger slant towards killing the elderly, the immunocompromised, those who can't afford medical care and time off, etc. As usual.

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[–] Gregg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Can’t wait for the “that’s gay and fake” crowd to act like nothing is happening and if it is it’s Klaus Schwab’s fault.

[–] ravenaspiring@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

This Week in Virology talks a bit about this at the 10min mark TWiV 1214: Clinical update with Dr. Daniel Griffin

Episode webpage: https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/twiv-1214/

Media file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/twiv/TWiV1214.mp3?dest-id=25528

Also worth bookmarking the CDC summary... For as long as it's up. https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile my country's most powerful public health official: "vaccines are dangerous because they train viruses to be stronger, we should instead simply infect as many birds as possible"

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (14 children)

How to prepare for this shit again? I guess I can start by storing some masks, and a lot more food.

Any advice or thoughts? I can work from home fulltime, and grocery deliveries is possible.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The best thing to prepare is to not be fearful and to not panic.

I suggest that everybody protest against factory farming and participate in boycotts. Call lawmakers and regulators to take direct action against these companies and their dangerous practices (and hold them responsible).

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

If you pitch it as a wall around the farms, that the farms will pay for. You might have a shot.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"Top virologists raise alarm" ..... that didn't help last time. People and government won't take notice or want to take action until we see people with blood coming out of their eyes and dying in the streets, and even then, everyone will be more worried about the economy than in the body count.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I need to watch 28 days later again.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 0 points 1 year ago

Just in time for the sequel!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

If you wait a while, we'll be living in it

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, and this time masks will be illegal.

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[–] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In the U.S., RFK has promised to personally consume every dead bird he finds on the side of the road.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew there had to be at least one positive trait.

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[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

That happened before bird flu was announced tho

[–] lostlittletimeonthis@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just the worm talking, it's out for revenge

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It wants a mate

[–] parody@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thankful JD was only into couches

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thankfully the US has a president who is deeply experienced in pandemic management and bringing society together in common cause so I should manage ok. 😭

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure he's busy issuing orders and preparing a response plan (to blame Joe Biden).

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This time it’s Obama’s fault.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A lot of innocent people would die, but there could also be some big Ws if you know who and crew all kicked the bucket by dying due to the virus or ODing on bleach and ivermectin early, rather than after four years. Thumbing our noses at mother nature by slashing health departments and the WHO contributions are just asking for trouble.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I have a buddy who is a virologist. He sends me shit all the time about bird flu. The gain of function tests on it is wild. Also, note that we have seen this shit coming since 2012

  1. Fouchier, R.A.M., et al. (2012). "Airborne transmission of influenza A/H5N1 virus between ferrets."

Published in: Science

Summary: Demonstrated that a small number of mutations could allow H5N1 to spread via respiratory droplets in ferrets.

Link: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1213362

  1. Herfst, S., et al. (2012). "Airborne transmission of influenza A/H5N1 virus between ferrets."

Published in: Science (companion to Fouchier’s work)

Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22723413/

  1. Imai, M., et al. (2012). "Experimental adaptation of an influenza H5 HA confers respiratory droplet transmission to a reassortant H5 HA/H1N1 virus in ferrets."

Published in: Nature

Summary: Kawaoka’s lab showed that reassortment of H5N1 with pandemic H1N1 genes could enable airborne spread in ferrets.

Link: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature10831

  1. Zhang, Y., et al. (2013). "H5N1 hybrid viruses bearing 2009/H1N1 virus genes transmit in guinea pigs by respiratory droplet."

Published in: Science

Summary: Chinese researchers found that hybrid viruses combining H5N1 with H1N1 pandemic genes could spread between mammals.

Link: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1243362

  1. National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB) Reports (2012).

Summary: Initially recommended redacting details of GoF studies due to bioterrorism concerns, later reversed.

Link: https://osp.od.nih.gov/biotechnology/nsabb-reports/

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[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article is behind a paywall. What does it say?

[–] Flashback956@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT summary:

Over 40 top virologists from around the world are urgently warning about the growing threat of the H5N1 avian flu. While human-to-human transmission hasn’t been confirmed, sporadic infections in people with no known animal contact raise concerns about the virus adapting. H5N1 is now found in wild birds, livestock, and humans across all U.S. states and Canada, with over 168 million poultry culled and over 70 human cases—including one death.

The Global Virus Network (GVN) calls for stronger global action, urging governments to apply lessons from the COVID-19 pandemic. Key recommendations include:

  • Strengthening animal and human surveillance, including testing milk, wastewater, and workers.
  • Sharing genomic data rapidly.
  • Enforcing protective gear and hygiene on farms.
  • Providing self-testing for workers and healthcare access.
  • Boosting funding, especially in high-risk areas.
  • Investing in virus prediction, vaccine development, and clinical research.

Experts emphasize that early detection, community engagement, and international cooperation are crucial to preventing a potential human pandemic.

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Full article:

Leading virologists from over 40 countries are sounding the alarm over the increasing threat of H5N1 avian flu—which can cause coughing, body aches, fatigue, pneumonia, and other symptoms in humans—urging global leaders to step up with a range of measures and to use knowledge gained during the COVID pandemic.

“In the U.S. sporadic human infections with no known contact with infected animals highlight the possibility of viral adaptation for efficient human-to-human transmission,” Global Virus Network (GVN) scientists write in a commentary published this week in The Lancet Regional Health–Americas. “Concurrently, the virus continues to circulate in wild birds, backyard flocks, and hunted migratory species, further amplifying the risk to humans and domestic animals.”

The experts compel leaders to address the issue by boosting surveillance, enhancing biosecurity, and preparing for potential human-to-human viral transmission.

The authors note that more than 995 dairy cow herds and at least 70 people have been infected with H5N1, including severe cases and the first reported U.S. death. 

“Understanding the current landscape of H5N1 infections is critical for effective prevention and response,” Dr. Sten H. Vermund, chief medical officer of the GVN and dean of the USF Health College of Public Health at the University of South Florida, said in a press release. “The virus’s ability to infect both animals and humans, combined with recent genetic changes, underscores the importance of proactive surveillance and rapid response measures.”

The highly pathogenic influenza virus is now circulating in all 50 states and Canada, the virologists warn, resulting in the loss or culling of more than 168 million poultry animals in the U.S. since 2022. While human-to-human transmission is not documented, experts warn that virus mutations or the combination of two flu viruses could increase transmissibility.

The researchers made several recommendations:

  • Continuously monitoring animals, including testing milk, wastewater, and people working with infected animals, to track virus evolution that may lead to human-to human transmissibility.
  • Accelerating the sharing of genomic data among global research networks to track virus evolution and spread.
  • Using personal protective equipment and strict farm-cleaning protocols.
  • Advocating for self-administered diagnostic tests for farmworkers and health care access for frontline medical workers.
  • Providing more funding for responses, especially in high-risk regions.
  • Investing in predicting traits of avian flu viruses from genetic data.
  • Developing and rapidly administering vaccines to people and animals.
  • Conducting clinical studies on the properties of emerging virus strains, potential therapies, and vaccines.

“A robust nationwide monitoring system is essential to quickly detect and quarantine affected animals and implement preventive measures to curb further spread and human infections,” said Elyse Stachler, GVN member and a research scientist at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard. “Further, we believe it is crucial to maintain trust and stakeholder buy-in for monitoring programs, particularly from farmworkers.”

“We are advocating for community-driven strategies to ensure the successful implementation of vaccines, if necessary,” said Dr. Christian Bréchot, president emeritus of the GVN and director of the USF Health Microbiomes Institute and senior associate dean for research in global affairs in the USF Health Morsani College of Medicine. “The situation with H5N1 demands heightened vigilance and collaboration across public health sectors. Early detection and robust surveillance are critical to prevent further spread.”

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