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I recently saw this news on the technology community https://lemmy.world/post/44224445 and got very disappointed with the way things are going with this browser.

I started using it to do my part against the chromium monopoly, but Mozilla is making too many bad decisions in my opinion.

I've heard about forks like Librewolf and Waterfox.

Which alternatives would you recommend? Do you use any of them? What are your thoughts on them?

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[โ€“] SrMono@feddit.org 48 points 2 months ago

LibreWolf. It works ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

[โ€“] angrywaffle@piefed.social 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Guys, instead of a popularity contest, it'd be more productive if we listed the reasons for choosing one or another.

I like that idea, it provides information and gives you something to research as well. IDK shit about shit though so I'm going to keep my mouth shut lol.

[โ€“] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Desktop - Librewolf

Android - Ironfox

[โ€“] airikr@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 months ago

I use librewolf

[โ€“] bizarroland@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I like waterfox. I felt librewolf was a little too paranoid with its security permissions for convenient use and waterfox strikes a good balance in my opinion between what firefox is doing and what librewolf is doing.

[โ€“] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

A browser fork is generally less secure, because they're slower to get security updates. Firefox gives you the option to remove all the AI and that's a better approach.

Alternatively you could switch to Firefox ESR, which is basically just better in every way.

[โ€“] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago
[โ€“] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Desktop: librewolf. I've not found anything remotely comparable for Android.

[โ€“] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I just use Fennec on android

[โ€“] Griffus@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you feel about IronFox?

[โ€“] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I deleted my post because I was mistaken. I haven't tried it.

[โ€“] Griffus@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Worth a shot, recommended by several in the comments here as well.

[โ€“] Chaser@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

At the moment I just stick with firefox, as long as I can disable all the ai and telemetry bs. However in a few years Ladybird could be an alternative. They're developing a whole new browser including the engine from scratch. Looks promising to me.

https://ladybird.org/

[โ€“] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

there's always been a strong undercurrent of tech "libertarians" who refuse to understand that their "neutrality" is in service to fascists and pointing this fact out loud makes you the problem.

[โ€“] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[โ€“] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

men like kling were one of the reasons why i stopped being a software engineer; they're so incredibly common in the field and so highly rewarded by it that it's clear that the field's leaders are aligned with them.

it makes me wonder what i'll be doing once firefox is no longer a thing.

[โ€“] Cekan14@lemmy.org 4 points 2 months ago

I've discarded it after their AI use to switch to Rust

[โ€“] torgeros@norden.social 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] awake@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Does Zen allow for extensions (mainly asking for ublock origin and something comparable to the multi containers on Firefox)

[โ€“] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago
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[โ€“] mrnobody@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago

Waterfox is a great all-around platform for desktop and mobile.

[โ€“] Bhaelfur@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've been using Waterfox. I've been meaning to look into Zen again.

[โ€“] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

I've been using Zen lately. It's good, but it's also pretty different. It takes some getting used to. I like it because the interface is minimal and out of the way. It keeps your browser mostly just showing the content on the web page, instead of wasting space with the taskbar that's only needed occasionally. It's still all available, just hidden away until needed.

Librewolf, Librewolf all the way. It's a bit heavy-duty with the privacy, but that can be toned down in settings.

[โ€“] ColorfulCookie@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

Zen Browser, Firefox under the hood but soooo many incredibly nice features

[โ€“] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LibreWolf my beloved browser

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[โ€“] pigup@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A lot of people saying Fennec is good on Android. The line at the bottom is a bit of a turn off, isn't it?

[โ€“] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most Firefox forks still have support for Mozilla account sync and the extension malware blacklist, as those are useful features to have. But they do share info with Mozilla.

[โ€“] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Most Firefox forks still have support for Mozilla account sync and the extension malware blacklist, as those are useful features to have. But they do share info with Mozilla.

I believe that Tor browser and Mullvad browser do not phone home to Mozilla. That's my conclusion after using OpenSnitch for some time. Firefox and LibreWolf do phone home Mozilla at startup.

[โ€“] sonalder@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Use IronFox (forked from DivestOS Mull Browser) if you want a private FOSS firefox-based browser on Android. Note that it still lacks per-site isolation like every other FF based browser on Android, but this seems to be the most harden option available.

[โ€“] chunes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Firefox has a no ai toggle, you could just use that

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[โ€“] Anon764967@lemmy.org 4 points 2 months ago

I recommend Librewolf for logging in and using web apps, and Mullvad for one-time use. If security is your top priority, Trivalent is also a good option.

[โ€“] plz1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I've been using Waterfox for a year or so, after I got tired of the broken update process for Librewolf on MacOS. No regrets.

[โ€“] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

I use Zen on desktop, Fennec on Android. I also tried Librewolf/ Ironfox combo.

[โ€“] weaselsrippedmyflesh@lemmy.pt 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

On desktop, I use the Mullvad Browser and I'm pretty comfortable with it, as it's at least on par with Librewolf (which is pretty good), privacy-wise, I think. On mobile, I use IronFox through the Accrescent store, and I used to use a hardened version of Fennec, as well.

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[โ€“] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Ironfox on mobile.

[โ€“] Auster@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On Linux, I use Waterfox. On Android, I use Fennec. Both much lighter than Firefox, and Waterfox specifically doesn't need to be installed on Linux (my biggest concern in Linux - most is installed to the system), and the dev seems to be slowly separating Waterfox from the Firefox base, instead of keeping it as a stripped down Firefox. On the privacy side of things, not knowledgeable enough myself to audit them, but haven't seen any scandals on either yet.

[โ€“] farting_gorilla@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just switched to Librewolf from Firefox, would you recommend moving to Waterfox instead ?

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[โ€“] Undertaker@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Librewolf for Linux Desktop and Fennec for AOSP

I highly recommend Edge...bwahahaha...lightening the mood.

[โ€“] splendid9583@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

seamonkey but it's not compatible with a lot of websites these days sadly. hopefully they'll catch up soon.

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[โ€“] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Waterfox on Mobile has been working well for me so far.

[โ€“] ptt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago
  • Computer: Librewolf + Helium
  • Mobile: Ironfox + Cromite
[โ€“] ResistingArrest@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Kinda depends on your preference. A lot of people are proponents for librewolf, but it hasnโ€™t been great for me in the past. Privacy is probably top notch, but I have zen browser a try and Iโ€™m not hating it. Could also be a move for you.

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