The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
Crosspost from https://quokk.au/c/mop/p/665451/acab
one of the cop training courses promotes the idea that anyone with in like ... 22 feet of you ... has the potential to kill you.
so anytime they get close to a person that is "unsecured" and could "pose a threat" they use a lot of ready positions like a deadly tennis player looking to beat the odds on serve.
basically we are all perpetrators until proven otherwise.
I actually took some training about crowd/prisoner management back when I was in the army preparing for a deployment. Turns out a guy with a knife out who runs at you can usually get within stabbing distance, before a gun is drawn, anywhere within about 22 feet (or so).
If you assume everyone is out to get you because they're all murdering criminals, then yeah, gotta keep your hand on your gun whenever they're not social distancing enough. Fucking pigs.
basically we are all perpetrators until ~~proven otherwise~~ dead.
I feel like they'd be muzzle flagging us at all times if they were allowed to
While having us voluntarily handcuff ourselves behind our backs while lying face down.
With our own knees on our backs
I can tell you from experience that I absolutely notice when police do this to me and it absolutely feels like a threat. Being a police officer in the US isn't even close to being the most dangerous profession but they treat every interaction as if this will be the one that kills them.
In most states simply touching your holstered weapon during a confrontation is defined as Assault.
Yeah - your weapon. Not theirs.
Suuuuuper fair logical makes sense dot com
Never grab your own weapon in front of a cop, what are you crazy? Grab theirs. Both problems solved, plus any new problems that arise? Now you have the tools to address those!
Why did I read this in the voice of Salvador from Borderlands?
I never played it, but I know a compliment when I hear one
It's a DWB (Driving While Black)!!
For citizens with a firearm this is called menacing. For cops it's safety...
If the citizen placed his hand on a gun during the interaction the LEO would have immediately started fEaRing fur muh life!!! and started blasting.
Rules for thee but not for me.
Acorns fall on cars and LEOs fear for their lives.
Acorns are loaded guns, didn't you know? That's how one managed to shoot a cop by falling onto the car
That guy is clearly driving while black.
That is an American problem, the police assume you are armed even when there is no confrontation happening on a routine check.
The solution to a bad man with a gun is a good man with guns. Either way.
At least that is the rule in US.
You can tell he's a bad cop by his neck rolls.
What neck rolls?
They're like multiple chins, but on the back. I know, I've been blessed with them both. True, it 'may' have something to do with my diet. But hey, Iced Coffee is my religion.
They’re like multiple chins, but on the back.
I know what neck rolls are.
There aren't any on that image.
