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Having tried all three, its a stark difference in how much more social Lemmy is comparatively. Its not even close. Almost all posts I've encountered on lemmy have interaction; whereas, more often than not, posts on the other two platforms have no interaction. Wonder what the driving factor is behind this difference?

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[–] souperk@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Wondering if it's possible to put this observation into number...

Mastodon is so boring for me. Some people boost me because I discuss my research or Linux but rarely any engagement

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fuck is Nostr? I can't keep up.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Nostr is another fediverse like social media platform that the founder of bluesky created after he realized he had made another mistake like he did in creating twitter.

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Concur. Love how lemmings bundle up and socialize!

[–] minyaen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It is fascinating because of how small (relatively) the community is on Lemmy.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I think is the whole ”First Post” mindset.

When you post a reply on Mastodon, it is more intimate, the only people who see it are the original tooter and anyone who actively seeks more commentary. It is a dialogue between two people, or multiple dialogues between one person and many others.

Lemmy is more like a forum, where everyone can see all comments, right underneath the original post. It is more like an open-table discussion.

It is not that Lemmy is more social, it is just less personal.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The blog style format (post + threaded comments) is a lot more inviting to a conversational style than microblogging. Some Masto instances have very open post character counts but some are much more limiting - as are Bluesky and Xitter. If you're not able to explain your point clearly it hampers the ability to have a decent conversation about it.

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

explain your point clearly with unittests. Then we are talking.

Prove it's true otherwise it's just conjecture. A missive. A random thought, or G'd forbid, good intentions.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll save you the time: "It's just conjecture".

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah there is a lotta that floating around.

i feel locked in a cage with the proverbial monkey

shiats getting tossed everywhere. Dodging works for a time.

Eventually wanted more outta life than successive rounds of the classic game, space invaders.

People opening their mouths, whatever comes out, should be backed up with something. Even better if can interact with that something

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't really pay much attention do you Mr "look for the signal"?

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

u are right

just confirmed my point

either i'm defective or thoroughly distracted by a never ending stream of disjointed conversation threads that just blend together and lead no where.

Was there ever any hope of forming a long last relationship? Or is that never been in the cards?

Are we just thread participants for the life time of this thread?

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

just confirmed my point

Or maybe you're so used to posting on a platform that's bad to hold a conversation on you don't notice when you're part of one on a platform that is good at being conversational on.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've never heard of Nostr but Mastodon is a twitter clone and I don't find that style of website suits discussion well since you subscribe to accounts rather than communities.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've never understood what twitter style websites are actually for. They seem to have a tiny niche of celebrities and known personalities making a statement with no reasonable conversation stemming from it.

I don't understand how that structure was once one of the largest social media platforms in the first place.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In my experience Twitter was for modern Seinfeld jokes, mastodon is for monsterdon Sundays at 9pm et, and Lemmy is for commenting on Internet stuff.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are you comparing apples to glass bowls?

Lemmy is a reddit clone, where you create communities.
Mastodon is a Twitter clone, where you share what you ate last night or what political meme you like today while sharing photos of moss and/or windows.
Nostr is its own thing.

You can't really compare them with each other.

[–] minyaen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I get your point. But the question still remains. Lemmy objectively has more engagement/interaction regardless of the category of social media of each medium.

If you compare X to Lemmy, X has more engagement/interaction... And they are separate social media platforms categorically. Yet, Mastodon trumps Lemmy's user count by nearly 10 fold...

It stands to question that with a fraction of the users on Lemmy, why is the interaction/engagement considerably higher?

Mastodon User Count Lemmy User Count

Twitter have big interaction because user count is extremely high. For a microblogging platform maybe it requires that it needs lots of users and some "creators" who are followed by thousands of people, unlike communities which anyone can post and everyone joined the community can see.

I also think upvotes and downvotes plays a role too since mastodon does not have them(only boosts but boost actually shares with your own followers which might be very low)

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

An average post on Mastodon/X/Bluesky/Threads is "this is what I encounter" or "this is what I believe". Those kinds of posts don't specifically ask for a response. You can respond to it, but it doesn't require one.

That's not how you communicate on Lemmy or Reddit.

That's the difference.

Each platform has its own usages.

So to compare and say "well platform Y is more social, because there's more interaction than on platform 2" is a bit weird.

You wouldn't compare a letter with a message board on a town plaza either. Both can be used to communicate, but they're not comparable to each other.

Or in another way:
On Mastodon or Nostr, when you post something only a small subsection of the userbase actually sees it (only those who follow you, those that follow any of the hashtags that you used, or those that check the full firehose).
On Lemmy the entire community you posted it to can see your post.
Obviously you can get more response on Lemmy! More people get to see it.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It stands to question that with a fraction of the users on Lemmy, why is the interaction/engagement considerably higher?

mastodon is another "general interest" social media hub along the same vein of reddit or bluesky or .world or .ee, which means that (excluding its founding group) it takes many forms of long term investments to gain sufficient traction enough to establish a core group of active users (assuming that it ever succeeds at doing so at all) and that core group is a small fraction of its user base (presuming that a reddit post i saw years ago showing that a tiny fraction of users on social media are responsible for a vastly disproportionate amount of content on all platforms is true).

lemmy's political origins pre-included the identities and accompanying pre-built core groups that had already start coalescing in other social media platforms like reddit & tiktok. by the time of the reddit blackout protests those groups already had new online safe spaces in various lemmy instances and their ranks swelled at the same time other reddit users started to fill the ranks of other "general interest" instances like .world and later .ee

that link you posted on lemmy user counts reflects the "general interest" instance's difficulties of retaining a core group of active users that disproportionately create the most content. it's around this content is where you will find the interaction/engagement that characterizes lemmy's considerably higher engagement; instead of the news & link sharing lower interaction/engagement that characterizes the "general interest" instances.

right now; the "general interest" instances have a relatively handful of VERY prolific users expending a clearly excessive amount of time and effort at creating a sea of inactive communities & instances in the hopes that it might eventually serve as a basis for a "general interest" core group and i hope that they succeed; i think that the lemmyverse would be better with politically moderate points of view and i'm sure that the "general interest" instances won't lose all of their users to bluesky, threads, nostr, etc. by then.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know but that image looks sick

[–] minyaen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It is, right? I found it here.

[–] radiofreearabia@freefree.ps 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@minyaen they do federate, they aren't competitors

posted from Mastodon

[–] minyaen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, objectively. I wasn't intending for that message to be in question.

[–] gzerod200@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Hey, just to drive some more social interaction, what’s your favorite color? Mine’s a mix of aqua and turquoise.