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[–] PrincessKadath@ani.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Perhaps the most defining reason why Gen Z might be finding themselves out of jobs is their rejection of traditional work culture, which emphasizes long hours, constant availability and immersion in one’s job.

Meaning that they don't have to succumb to antiquated rules and social paradigms.

Kudos to them. I am (a very late) GenX, and I always hated that mentality. I work to live, not viceversa.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, expected bullshit cuz Forbes, but the psychologist actually knows what they're talking about about.

Doesn't outright say it, but the "problems" are all outdated shit boomers insist on keeping around because it's what they're used to.

Like, "face to face communication" not only isn't important now, it hasn't been for a long fucking time.

Even when you need to talk to someone one on one to figure something out. IM gives you a record of what was discussed to refer to

If I've got 20 things going on and someone wants a face to face or even a call, I'm very unlikely to remember the details a day later. IMs or emails, I can go back and get all the discussed info in like 2 minutes.

We're asking these kids to do shit that was outdated before they were born because the people in charge are at best in their late 60s and still are scared of computers.

They're just pissed life passed them by and the skills they have are outdated.

[–] Docus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You should read up on non verbal communication. As an older boomer, I am perfectly happy with working from home and a catch up on zoom/teams/slack with my team 99% of the time, and very much against return to office. But sometimes I do need face to face communication with team members I’m concerned about, or with customers.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But sometimes I do need face to face communication with team members I’m concerned about, or with customers.

Yes..

You need that, because that's what you grew up with.

I'm sure you don't know how to send a carrier pigeon, but at one point that was very important in business and government.

It's not Gen Z's fault that a lot of boomers are unable to retire due to the policies their generation voted for or their own personal irresponsible savings and retirement planning.

The youngest boomers are 60, so any "older boomer" is going to be well past retirement age.

Stop trying to insist every future generation has to compromise with your archaic needs.

You are the one out of place, they are the ones that are literally the future.

[–] madnificent@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I grew up online and there are people I've never met in person whom I can work with no problem. I have never had the need to see someone in person for work myself, but the click isn't there for everyone.

I dislike generational thinking and this argument seems to play on those lines; I have seen some people working better remote and some working better partially in person regardless of their generation or background. Younger people are more fluent in working remotely but not everyone wants that full-time and sometimes it doesn't work out too well either. Often working in the office is the worst so let's make/keep remote the default.

My personal opinion is that we should do everything online which can be online and that people who need to work in person should do their best to cater for working online. It helps with climate and can help work/life balance.

Any form of communication gap is a shared gap. Both sides have to cater to make the conversation work. If OP needs face-to-face then that must be taken into account. If you want that conversation to happen you'd better care for their needs as much as they'll care for yours. OP may have extensive experience in working with people and may have seen this need on their own end and likely on the other end too. Perhaps even only on the other end. On the spectrum of cooperation I'm sure there will be cases where it helps and perhaps even be necessary. I believe it's a small subset of situations.

By all means, try to stay constructive and learn from others. Whatever they have learned in the past likely applies to our new ways in another form. I would like it if we could keep improving remote.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Mate, let me save you some trouble:

When the vast majority talk of a generation or any type of group, they're talking about the majority and not every single one of them.