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This is why I'm telling folks not to rush into another impeachment.
Get gas prices down, get food prices down, show real results for people right away.
If you impeach the GOPs can say it was all about Trump.
If you show you can run the country better then they have nothing but hate to sell their people.
Impeaching Kegsbreath and J Measlz Kennedy must be immediate and without hesitation.
Come back around to the Rapist in Chief after getting real work done. Seizing the ill-gotten gains from his family and friends must happen as well.
Ice gestapos must be held to account, charge and arrested for treason and murder.
There's quite a lot of accountability that must happen in concert with repairing the economy.
This is the way.
Do whatever you can to immediately stop the war crimes, health crisis, and the gestapo and their concentration camps, then focus on policy to improve the lives of Americans.
Let Trump watch his power slip, his actions be undone, and his “allies” abandon him, all while he gets more and more afraid.
This may be a ridiculous comparison, but I just had the thought of Trump basically as Pennywise; you have to undo the fear that he feeds on to make him small and powerless before you can squash him 😅
Anyone focused on impeachment is a fucking idiot.
Democrats need to focus on one thing and one thing only, cost of living. It is basically the only thing people care about.
No. People care about accountability. Corruption was a big factor in this election. It shouldn’t be one or the other. They should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
To add to this, corruption can be linked to affordability. The Iran war and Tarriffs are driving inflation and Trump and co are profiting off that both by making corrupt stock trades before policy is announced.
How the fuck this isnt instant prison for life is baffling to me.
This is why there needs to be accountability and punishment and and not “moving on” or “sticking to norms”.
These people profited off death, suffering, and struggle of everyone but themselves. Fuck them.
So how do we actually get punishment ? An actual pedophile is in the whitehouse and has faced 0 repercussions. Actually he made billions.
Due process is in the constitution. Don't be like them. Let them be properly tried and convicted.
The fact that there's any question on whether they'll be convicted is the travesty.
Lmfao, no they don't.
They voted in Republicans after Citizens United and they voted in Trump after multiple impeachments.
The people should care about corruption, but they by and large don't ... unless they think that corruption is effecting the prices they're paying.
The people care about cost of living. Thats it.
Yup. It's a sad fact, but it's a fact.
$6 gas is the only reason we have an anti-war movement right now too, as evidenced by how unbothered Americans as a people were by the 20 years of War on Terror and torture, normalized by both ruling parties. Heck, our last president was the supposed progressive and earned the name 'Genocide Joe'.
I've literally never heard anyone call him genocide Joe. Honestly if you're hearing people call him that you might want to reconsider the people you talk to.
Well, your lived experience is clearly very insular.
You might consider crediting people with being genociders when they support a genocide.
So Trump won 2024 because he was accountable?
The reason impeachment is even in discussion is because we have a president who would rather burn the country down while blaming the Democrats, than compromise.
Hell, compromise is even the wrong word, they could pass the "Trans ban tax cut deregulation super bill" and he would still veto it out of spite.
Without presidential support or a super majority, Democrats main tools are investigations and impeachments. If anything, that gives them leverage or a shot at getting someone into the Oval Office not obsessed with retribution.
Republicans in both chambers could take a hint and help pass things without the president, but it's more likely they're doing the political calculus and coming to the decision that resisting Democrats passing popular bills is the best shot they have at the GE in 2 years ago they can say "See, the blue wave was useless and Democrats can't govern."
This isn't me pre-appologizing for Democrat inaction, it's the reality of how our political system works - having a simple majority in one of the three beaches of government isn't free reign to do whatever you want.
Impeachment means fuck all. It's a red herring for the position of president. He's been impeached twice already. It means nothing.
No, their main tool and job, remains their main tool and job: passing legislation.
Make the president veto bill after bill after bill and they'll have something to campaign on next time that people care about.
100%
And they're probably not going to because most don't actually give a damn if people are starving.
In what world do you think congress has the ability to get gas prices, food prices, or cost of living down without removing the cheetoh? Congress passes laws, but the president signs them into law. Congress needs a supermajority to over-ride a president veto. And Lord knows the Republicans can now go back to what they're good at - obstructing progress.
So by your own admission, impeachment is both impossible to do and utterly futile.
The problem you have is that you still think that Trump and the GOP are the same thing. Trump cares only about himself, and will throw the GOP under the bus in an instant if he thinks it'll do him some good.
Dems should go to him with a deal like this. Sign Medicare For All and we'll call it 'TrumpCare." Let him blame Pete H for the Iran War and sign a treaty. Let him be President for the next two years and then destroy him in state courts.
The main thing you're overlooking is that the people who voted for Trump three times and then voted Blue last night have no loyalty to the Dems of the Left. They care about $6.00 gas. Give them what they want.
Gas costs an average of $5.87/gal in California vs $3.37 in North Carolina. Electricity costs 29.75c/kWh in California vs Nevada which is 12.72c. LNG in California costs $21.25 per Mcf vs Utah at $12.78.
It's true that they can't pass any national laws, but states have immense power within their borders to make the lives of their constituents better. They can and should demonstrate competence in their state if they want to convince voters to give them more national power. This is their chance.
I agree that impeachment shouldn’t be the first priority but I think it needs to be done and Trump might force it.
Trump is mentally unwell, he’s not planning on leaving office in 2028, and I think there’s a genuine chance he drops a nuke.
Get prices under control, make tangible changes people notice, then impeach that sack of shit.
See my comment further up the thread.
The tl, dr is that Trump will throw the GOP under the bus in a second if he thinks it will do him some good.
The main goal of the Dems right now is making the people who voted Blue for the first time last night vote Blue again and again and again.
Impeachment doesn't mean removal from office.
He's already been impeached. Twice.
Also, if you remove Trump, you've got JD in his place.
Not really a big win