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Feeling pessimistic, might delete later. You can blame ICE kidnapping people off the streets, a stupid gerrymandering strategy, endless idiotic wars, or even just Ken Paxton being hated. But I think the only reason Texas (and some other usually-red states and districts) flipped is because a lot of people were pissed off that it was costing $200 to fill their huge trucks and SUVs. Is $6 diesel the result of Republican policy? Of course. But if we invaded Iran and it didn't cause a huge spike in gas prices I don't think we would be where we are today (and to be clear, I'm very pleased with last night's results, even if my fucking stupid Florida continues to underperform).

Quick edit to whoever admins this community: I just read the sidebar & rule 1. Mea culpa.

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I think prices were a big part of it.

But more than that I think people actually took the time to vote, which is why they will have a Latina governor now.

[–] gastroglizzy@piefed.social 141 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Sometimes, getting the right thing for the wrong reason is good enough.

[–] artifex@piefed.zip 43 points 2 days ago

No argument there. Any port in a storm.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Americans overall proved the DGAF about corruption, rape and pedophilia. It was the price of gas. They aren't saying no to war and killing children, just if the consequence is expensive gas for their Canyonero.

So if Iran resolves and gas goes back down, they will flock back to the next geriatric pedophile rapist.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, ALL those things factored in as well. It wasn't ALL about gas prices.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Correct. The particular swing among Hispanics can be directly connected to Trumps unpopular immigration enforcement.

Also, speaking with a couple former Trump supporters, the disillusionment with Iran goes beyond gas prices (or even inflation in general). There really was a belief among a lot of Trump supporters that the US shouldn't be messing around in the middle east. And, lets not forget about the Epstein files. That really took the wind out of the sails of a lot of his supporters.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Not all of us :( but too many

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[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prices are not going back down. Actions in the strait cannot be undone.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the main cause of this blue wave was gas prices.

The last 10 years have proven Americans aren't particularly concerned about their democracy. Gas though....

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Of course, it was the same reason Trump won last time. The dems were holding the inflation hot potato.

2018: Republicans try to cut taxes and repeal Obamacare. First blue wave happens.

2022: All-time high gas prices, higher than this year, under Biden. No red wave.

Fuck off with this pessimistic bullshit

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is why I'm telling folks not to rush into another impeachment.

Get gas prices down, get food prices down, show real results for people right away.

If you impeach the GOPs can say it was all about Trump.

If you show you can run the country better then they have nothing but hate to sell their people.

[–] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is why I’m telling folks not to rush into another impeachment.

Impeaching Kegsbreath and J Measlz Kennedy must be immediate and without hesitation.

Come back around to the Rapist in Chief after getting real work done. Seizing the ill-gotten gains from his family and friends must happen as well.

Ice gestapos must be held to account, charge and arrested for treason and murder.

There's quite a lot of accountability that must happen in concert with repairing the economy.

[–] Gerblat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

This is the way.

Do whatever you can to immediately stop the war crimes, health crisis, and the gestapo and their concentration camps, then focus on policy to improve the lives of Americans.

Let Trump watch his power slip, his actions be undone, and his “allies” abandon him, all while he gets more and more afraid.

This may be a ridiculous comparison, but I just had the thought of Trump basically as Pennywise; you have to undo the fear that he feeds on to make him small and powerless before you can squash him 😅

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Anyone focused on impeachment is a fucking idiot.

Democrats need to focus on one thing and one thing only, cost of living. It is basically the only thing people care about.

[–] theedqueen@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No. People care about accountability. Corruption was a big factor in this election. It shouldn’t be one or the other. They should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To add to this, corruption can be linked to affordability. The Iran war and Tarriffs are driving inflation and Trump and co are profiting off that both by making corrupt stock trades before policy is announced.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How the fuck this isnt instant prison for life is baffling to me.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is why there needs to be accountability and punishment and and not “moving on” or “sticking to norms”.

These people profited off death, suffering, and struggle of everyone but themselves. Fuck them.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Lmfao, no they don't.

They voted in Republicans after Citizens United and they voted in Trump after multiple impeachments.

The people should care about corruption, but they by and large don't ... unless they think that corruption is effecting the prices they're paying.

The people care about cost of living. Thats it.

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[–] Clambake0351@piefed.zip 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The reason impeachment is even in discussion is because we have a president who would rather burn the country down while blaming the Democrats, than compromise.

Hell, compromise is even the wrong word, they could pass the "Trans ban tax cut deregulation super bill" and he would still veto it out of spite.

Without presidential support or a super majority, Democrats main tools are investigations and impeachments. If anything, that gives them leverage or a shot at getting someone into the Oval Office not obsessed with retribution.

Republicans in both chambers could take a hint and help pass things without the president, but it's more likely they're doing the political calculus and coming to the decision that resisting Democrats passing popular bills is the best shot they have at the GE in 2 years ago they can say "See, the blue wave was useless and Democrats can't govern."

This isn't me pre-appologizing for Democrat inaction, it's the reality of how our political system works - having a simple majority in one of the three beaches of government isn't free reign to do whatever you want.

[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 7 points 2 days ago

Impeachment means fuck all. It's a red herring for the position of president. He's been impeached twice already. It means nothing.

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[–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In what world do you think congress has the ability to get gas prices, food prices, or cost of living down without removing the cheetoh? Congress passes laws, but the president signs them into law. Congress needs a supermajority to over-ride a president veto. And Lord knows the Republicans can now go back to what they're good at - obstructing progress.

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[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I agree that impeachment shouldn’t be the first priority but I think it needs to be done and Trump might force it.

Trump is mentally unwell, he’s not planning on leaving office in 2028, and I think there’s a genuine chance he drops a nuke.

Get prices under control, make tangible changes people notice, then impeach that sack of shit.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think this opinion is unpopular. It's unpleasant, but not unpopular imho.

Trump campaigned on low gas prices, low grocery prices, and no more forever wars. Then he launched the war on Iran and all three blew up in his face.

I'm downvoting this, not because I disagree (which I do), but because it's apparently a popular opinion and you also broke rule #1

[–] JayK117@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

The other way of thinking about it was that it was the lie that broke through. They could have believed the other lies, naively or wilfully, but being told that gas was $2 and seeing $6 was the easiest way to pull back the curtain.

[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 20 points 2 days ago

It’s not the only reason, it’s a major reason. Hispanic conservatives realized in large enough reasons that being religious and conservative wasn’t protecting them from bigotry, being murdered, deported, being impoverished. Not all of them realized, but enough. Those things combined with cost of living issues, exhaustion from the circus and war.. it all worked together.

[–] Tradwench@thelemmy.club 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've worked as a polling location clerk for the past several elections in TX. Yesterday I saw the most number of first time voters coming in, smiling shyly (and some not knowing how to sign lol) than ever. I also saw many elderly women coming in with their first time voter grandchildren, which stood out to me and made me wonder who brought whom. I suspect we had a record first time voter participation for a mid-term election cycle, and curious to know how much it effected the results.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It's the economy, stupid.
It always has been and probably always will be. And $6 diesel is just one of the most visible places for people to see and be impacted by it. Republicans don't care about corruption, they see government as always corrupt. Trump is just doing what they believe all politicians do. Republicans support what ICE is doing and are fine with ICE killing people, they will just blame the victim. But they cannot ignore the feeling of impending doom when they are getting to the end of their budget before the end of the pay period, and they are staring down a $200 bill to fill their gas tank. While that may not get them to vote Democrat, it does get them to not vote at all. And that is enough.

I think there is also an angle to investigate about the major growth which has happened in the DFW area. Due to companies and people moving there, that whole areas has been shifting blue. At some point, enough people voting blue in the cities will overwhelm the red rural population for statewide races. And that is only helped by Republicans not showing up at the polls.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it’s one of the only reasons any part of the USA flipped.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's also why the flip was so dramatic two years ago.

Donald used the same playbook that Biden and Harris did, which was lie incessantly and gaslight the electorate, and just kind of ignore that we fill our own gas tanks, shop for our own groceries, pay our own bills, and go to our own medical appointments. It's almost as if these stupid, rich bastards really don't know that the poor and working class do all the shit for themselves that rich people pay their help to do.

You can't gaslight people out of their learned experienced of poverty.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'll take it, It would be nice if there were things like care and compassion but this is texas we are talking about.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

yeah and the majority of people are buying ev’s, solar panels and batteries to save money not to save the world

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

But it's still ok if I care about war and children and corruption and racism, etc, right? I mean economics is pretty much always what drives the election but those other things matter.

[–] gridlock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is an opportunity to try to pass things like a federal ban on partisan gerrymandering. That and cost of living items are the two most impactful things they can start with.

[–] spankysalmon@fedinsfw.app 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'll be shocked if Democrats actually do something smart and impactful with their control. They've been the useful idiots to the Republican's evil for decades by now.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Downvoted for popularish opinion

This musical short basically covers the feeling for me.

I also think that had a person that many Republicans don't hate had been selected in the primary, then I think Abbott and Cornyn would have been elected to their positions, so I suppose you can thank Trump and his insatiable ego for that.

That said, if in 4 years (so 2 years with buffoon in chief plus 2 years with maybe a Dem president) if conditions can be made materially better, I think there would be better receptivity to Democrats in Texas when it's time to unseat Ted Emergency-Cruise. I think Democrats have to get creative and in certain respects let Trump "feel" like he has a win, end the wars, take on oligarchs, drain the swamp, but give him little prizes and pats on the back as a good boi president, because as much as I hate the guy, he can't run for office anymore. People can compare the domestic terrorism that happened under 2 years of Republican trifecta vs what's to come, the common thread is the party, not Trump. Just DON'T let people's political goldfish brains forget the cruelty Republicans inflicted on them. Investigations on Trump's handlers and cronies can do double duty - keep that fresh in people's minds and keep them away from influencing Trump as much as possible.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Folks here in Texas were definitely sick of hearing about Ken Paxton. I was sick of him years ago, in local politics, and honestly pushing him was a stupid move for the GOP.

If you look at the electoral map, Austin-adjacent counties bucked historical trends in the Senate race the hardest, and I suspect it’s because of the flood of Paxton drama in local news.


Also, I think the Hispanic vote was a massive factor.

Social media (and failed Democrats) really captured them in the Trump cycles (IMO), but recent events were just too impactful to override.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Exactly. Gas prices are an important factor, but there was so much more than that. Corruption was an extremely high priority in this election, something the MSM didn't acknowledge much. People are getting really tired of holding their nose and voting. It's difficult to raise your children with a moral center when the party you are supporting is committing so much corruption on every level.

Then there were the betrayed Latinos, the betrayed young people, the betrayed anti-war people, the betrayed Epstein Files people, etc. How many times do you think you're going to be able to kick someone in the nuts before they've had enough, and punch back?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Its more like 250-275 to fill up the huge truck, but I generally agree if gas prices weren't this high this election would have been different.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a 13 gallon JDM diesel van - a 1994 Delica L300. Diesel is almost $8 a gallon in Seattle, where I live. My last fill-up was $102.

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[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can dig it. Texas Is The Reason, that oil matters at all…

[–] Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

And you know what, thats fine for now. Now its on the new leadership to improve the life of their constituents to such a degree that it becomes hard to argue with come next election cycle.

One election matters but repeated wins and changes that are in line with the betterment of society are the actual goal. Let the diesel guy Rollin coal with his truck testicles get a taste. We already know they can't picture things without first experiencing it themselves, this is the time.

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