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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is still a difference between "we don't plan to stop selling arms to a genocidal country" and "we're so on board with genocide that this country commits, we'll do everything in our power to help them, also here's the generated video of my golden statue on top of the corpses we want to see, and I can't stress this enough how much I want those corpses".
On top of that, the left such as it is, have non-zero influence on Democratic party. Not a big one, but non-zero. And Palestine issue could be this pressure point, it has enough support to be one. You can't do anything with Genocidal Donny.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry mate but "sending to a nation comitting a genocide for use in an urban environment bombs so big and with so much collateral damage that your our own military refuse to use them because of that" is totally "being onboard with genocide" and "we’ll do everything in our power to help them".

Even the fucking Brits who have been arresting their own people as "Terrorists" for demonstrating against that Genocide weren't giving Israel the second largest conventional bombs in existence to drop in a very densely populated urban environment.

Unwavering unlimited support for Israel no matter what they do is the one policy that didn't at all change when Trump replaced Biden.

Literally the subset of American top politicians who are against this shit are the Democrat Progessives (a small minority even inside their own party) and some of those still voted to send arms to Israel as long as it was claimed they were "for self-defense" so the jury is still out on those specifically.

Europe is very much politically divided on the question Israel and its Genocide, but not so America were the anti-Genocide politicias are a small enough group to be called a "fringe".

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In your stride to achieve 100% purity and 100% good, you got blindsided and don't see that rejection of way less than an ideal solution in favour or 150% terrible solution. There are people dead today that could be alive if the party of evil wasn't in power, and this includes people in Palestine. If you give a single shit about people's actual lives and not just purity politics, you categorically have to be in favour of harm reduction.
Democratic party as an organisation isn't great on the genocide question, but it's undeniably better than the other one, and in two party system it's the most important part, everything else comes later. Fucked up system, for sure, but it's one that exists