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‘We’re done’: Ukraine resumes strikes on Russian oil refineries as anger at Trump mounts
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Conservatism is and always has been an attempt to return to a form of feudalism, with the rich being the new nobility and everyone else being powerless to resist. In that regard, Russia with its oligarchs is about as conservative as it comes.
someone likened texas is closer to russia, since oligarchs/abbot, practically controls the whole state
Probably similar power grid reliability stats and winter casualties, too.
No. Conservatism can be that and can be skepticism to idealism in all forms.
The Russian example would be the popular belief of some people that presidential power should be made stronger in the 90s, and then of some other people that everything western is just better from the root and larping is enough, and then of another group of people that they can take modern (by year 2012) Russia's common idea of "respectable" and "cool" and make it compatible with honesty and justice and their own survival.
The American example would be - well, I think Fox News is good enough, what they started with was (of what I've read) the typical American idea of "alternative" and "anti-establishment", which is good in itself, just believing that there's a side offering that or that there's a way to move the world in that direction radically, - these are dangerous idiocies.
The "youthly liberal modern" idea of cool of 2010s in the social media, that I've recently remembered, is too a good example. When virtually all of the crowd was uncritically accepting that people at whom corporate policies point and say "they are homophobes, extremists and what's the worst of all - uncool", are really that.
One meaning of the word "conservatism" is being skeptical of such things. One can be conservative-left. It's just that people don't like nuance.
There's obviously nothing anti establishment and counter cultural about fox news. These are demagogues with budgets of millions of USD and with a large viewership.
How they stylize their reactionary bs is almost meaningless. It's surface level.
The point remains: they have nothing beyond bigotry and stupidity and these are the only constants.
Yeah, "they" matters not about the source, but about what the audience thinks.
It doesn't matter what lies they buy into. There's no such thing as a "conservative lefty" or whatever you wrote earlier.
They bought into some culture war issue that's in the end meaningless.
It's not important to be able to discriminate against trans people but they want to do that and are willing to accept a whole bundle of reactionary policies along with it.
Communist Party of the Soviet Union would seem to be exactly that.
It doesn't matter what you think conservatism is, it only matters what your masters think it is. And they follow the teachings of Edmund Burke, that money means control and that control is everything.
As long as you keep supporting monsters, they'll keep selling you lies.
Because conservatism is the push for a new feudalism, and the serfs have no say in it beyond blindly supporting the rich.
Well, if we reach that, your support is also not very meaningful.
I'm pretty sure that just means "conservative" doesn't mean anything.
Well, all words have different semantics depending on the context and would have none without context. Doesn't say much.
Semantics can be playing with words, are sure you're not doing that?
We're not talking about words, we're talking about political ideology. A communist is a communist, a liberal is a liberal, a fascist is a fascist, these ideologies aren't context dependent. There are different kinds of communists and liberals and fascists etc etc but they're all recognizably part of the same ideological family with a clear historical tradition, no matter the time period or country.
Conservatives can be so radically different in different contexts that it's not really useful as a descriptor. It's like saying someone is extreme or moderate or revolutionary or something, its so context dependent that it tells you practically nothing without the context.