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‘We’re done’: Ukraine resumes strikes on Russian oil refineries as anger at Trump mounts
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Can someone tell me why the right wing and the "independents"/reactionary centrists keep claiming that ties between donnie and Russia are a "hoax"?
Most of the "liberal media" now seems to have that stance, pretending that butthurt rightwing claims of how mean the "liberal media" was to donnie back in 2016 over his Russian ties is a legit grievance of how the media went overboard, or "fell for" something, etc.?
Because they're idiots.
Because they're bought and paid for
If "Liberal Media" doesn't oppose Trump and Russia then it isn't Liberal. Factual reporting has revealed Trump Russia ties since the Meuller investigation sentenced his campaign team.
Hence the scare quotes. I've been told all my life that the corporate media like ABC, CBS, NBC are sooper-dooper liberal and that's why the poor little aggrieved right wing were forced to construct their own alternative media universe, since the liberals were so extreme and just so mean to conservatives. I mean those nasty liberals, reporting the truth about Nixon, were the reason Nixon resigned and that was all just so unfair.
because the russian propaganda is telling them its a hoax, so conservatives dont connect the dots.
because they're really grateful that by electing trump they can use slurs again, that's literally all it is.
Why did you repeat right-wing three times, just spelled differently?
Mostly because the Steele dossier was debunked if I recall correctly. His financial ties to a bunch of Russian oligarchs is definitely real though
The Steele dossier was a collection of raw intelligence reports. Minor details were proven wrong, such as Trump spending the night in a hotel but not in the presidential suite like the report claimed. Otherwise, multiple people claimed they could prove they hadn't done what was claimed but failed to do so or were later proved to have indeed done the things.
Nearly all of the claims have been proven broadly true by subsequent investigations.
It linked multiple members of his campaign to elements in and around the Russian government. Communication records later proved that contact has indeed taken place.
It claimed Russians had dirt on Trump from a pageant he hosted there. While no blackmail material has come out, one of the Russian contacts the campaign communicated with told them he had buried some for them.
The dossier claimed a Romanian hacking group operating at the direction of the Russian government was behind the Clinton leaks. It was later proven that it had been done by a Russian group pretending to be Romanian.
It was claimed that WikiLeaks was directly coordinating with both the Trump campaign and Russia to inflict maximum damage on Clinton and steer people toward Trump. Emails later came out that proved this.
These are just a handful of the verified claims.
This was my understanding as well. I have no idea why the narrative that it was "debunked" is one that seems to prevalent now.
Relying on the so-called "liberal media" for certain details, most especially the Russian-donnie collusion, can make one feel like they are taking crazy pills.
It gets even worse if one still takes someone like Taibbi into account, too. JFC, what happened to him, anyway? Did Russia get something on him while he was staying there?
Two main issues:
Ah, damn I guess I fell for it. Thanks for setting me straight
Debunked?