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[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Tankies aren't Marxist or anarchists. Tankies are eastern imperialists and statists that like to call themselves Marxist.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Tankie", as used in online discourse, just means "person to my political left making an argument I can't refute".

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is completely false and you know it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

It is about shilling for authoritarian dictatorships like Russia and China.

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, if your definition of "shilling for" is "rejecting US State Department narratives about".

Otherwise, it's like I said, it means "person to my political left making a point I can't refute".

https://welshundergroundnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

okay then please tell that to everyone calling me a tankie plsss

the reality is that 'tankie' is one of those terms that gets stretched until it's just a pejorative for anyone to the left of the person using it.

started as a specific reference to people who defended the soviet invasion of hungary in 1956, then it gets applied to anyone who doesn't denounce every socialist state on demand, now it's anyone who doesn't want to vote for biparitsan war consensus

[–] SparroHawc@piefed.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sister, you're the one that decided that OP was lumping the anarchists and Marxists in with the tankies! You appear to be trying to claim that OP is portraying everyone who says 'both sides are the same' as tankies. A is a subset of B; B is not equal to A. Just because some people don't actually understand what 'tankie' means doesn't mean everyone shares that view, in the same way that 'liberal' doesn't actually mean 'everyone who votes Democrat'.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You appear to be trying to claim that OP is portraying everyone who says ‘both sides are the same’ as tankies

he is tho

in the same way that ‘liberal’ doesn’t actually mean ‘everyone who votes Democrat’.

yeah plenty of liberals are also republicans

[–] SparroHawc@piefed.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Okay, now I know you're just trolling.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

i regret to inform you that pretty much everything i post is serious

[–] DudleyMason@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Liberals when someone has any understanding of politics that's deeper than what gets tought in high school civics or cable news:

Okay, now I know you're just trolling.

[–] edible_funk@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

I have never encountered an ml user acting in good faith on here. They always come in packs and use alts to brigade communities and instances and hit every political thread hard trying to convince people not to vote dem. They're almost exactly like how thedonald subreddit used to be a decade ago. Probably quite a few of those rejects ended up there the way ml works for maga.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, you come from an instance where the rules are literally pro-authoritarian, so yeah people are gonna assume you're a tankie as well.

What are your thoughts on North Korea?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

it's a heavily sanctioned garrison state that emerged from a brutal colonial occupation and a war that killed a third of the population.

i dont particularly care for any states, but i have special contempt for the US. that makes it hard to share in the fearmongering about the US's designated enemies on the other side of the planet from where i live.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, you didn't describe them as brave freedom fighters trying to maintain true democracy in spite of western fascism, so that's a good sign.

In retrospect, I probably should have asked you about authoritarianism.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I probably should have asked you about authoritarianism.

yes i oppose authoritarianism, but also all states are authoritarian. liberal authoritarianism is a far greater threat to my existence right now than any threat from the state enemies of the US

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 weeks ago

In my experience tankies say that authoritarianism is a made up concept to shit on the glorious USSR. So two points towards you not being a tankie.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Tankies" just means people who support existing socialist states. Typically we are Marxist-Leninists, but anarchists and socdems also fit this sometimes and are targeted.

[–] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dang what socdems do you know. I'd love to meet them.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Hasan counts, IMO. He supports China, Cuba, etc. but focuses more on welfare capitalism. He gets called a tankie semi-frequently.