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How Google Maps offers me an alternate route that is longer, slower, eats more fuel, and has tolls on it for some reason
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So many here are so happily accepting the very concept of a toll road, it's kind of gross.
would you rather have general taxes be higher? someone has to pay for road upkeep.
in my state we refuse to raise the gas tax, so tolls go up, registration fees, etc.
we had a law that pegged the gas tax to inflation, and a ballot measure removed it, because the citizens are idiots. so now we all pay like double our registration fees.
Yes. Our toll roads in Oklahoma are in terrible shape and are expensive to use.
me too, but 80% of my fellow citizens don't agree. they think taxes are too high and want them lower.
but also we need to spend more on schools, infrastucture, etc...
almost like they can't do basic math...
Most of them barely pay taxes as it is.
Higher taxes or having to stop and queue every couple of kilometers?
Higher taxes obviously, my time is worth a lot more.
They don’t do it like that where I live anymore. There are transponders you can get to pay for tolls automatically or they send you a bill based on your license plate with overhead traffic cameras and receivers that don’t affect traffic in any way. They’ve been doing this for over a decade, well before modern license plate readers. It’s obviously a little grosser now , knowing how these types of cameras are oppressive, but at this point, I think they’re at the toll booths anyway, so the only thing you’re saving by going for old fashioned toll booths is a dangerous, physically harmful job.
huh, where do you live? tolls are all automatic at full speed now. and have been so for well over a decade.
last time i had to stop for toll booth was probably 2010, and even back then they already had a automated lane, but it was 20mph, not 65+
Yes. Higher taxes for the rich are always the answer. They alone can afford to cover the costs. For anyone making $1 mil/yr USD or less, your taxes from all sources should be $0. The lowest paid citizens are the hardest workers; we deserve a break.
1 million is too high. Start at 250K as the lowest taxed (not counting below that which is zero) and it goes up proportionally from there. And no cap in it either, if someone makes a trillion their tax should be over 100%.
right, so everyone who isn't you should pay higher taxes... but not you, you shouldn't pay any! because you're not rich! you're just a low paid hard working person.
Funny thing about that though, is the people making milllions don't think they are rich either.
And we can assume all those roads with the privately owned toll booths are in perfect upkeep? Pay that toll like a good corporate citizen, hard work is its own reward, etc etc ad nauseum.
why do you think it's gross?
Not OC but I agree with him. Where I live, the toll roads are owned by private corporations, some of them entirely foreign owned corporations, and the rates are obscenely high. It isn't about maintaining the road; instead it is about rent seeking behavior and maximizing shareholder profits. That is abhorrent to me. Public goods should be owned by the public.
Americans want good roads but don't want to pay taxes or tolls to keep them maintained.
We already pay the taxes. Tolls are on top of that to private corporations and that money is kept not used for road repair. Don't talk about things you don't know.
In most countries, every highway is a toll road instead of taxing fuel. Though an increasing number use a prepaid vignette or plate based mail billing instead, not actual physical tool booths like we're in the 80s.
In the US it's both, making toll roads extortion.