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~~They will also delete any comments that complain about AI at all, even though there is no rule against it.~~

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After second look, that's not entirely true, but they definitely have a trigger finger for it and leave plenty of other "off-topic" comments.

Considering the amount of posts deleted, it should have just been locked instead of nuking comments with a negative view of AI

Here's the thread in the screenshot:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43426671/18476015

Also, here you can see other's seem to think this was an attempt to silence dissent (though, I don't think that this coming from drag is a great point for it):
https://lemmy.ca/post/43313594

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Just look at this completely insane comment from an instance admin:

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Here's my response to their points:

  1. That's an opinion, not a fact. And while I agree that in many circumstances there are plenty of reactionary responses, it does not get anywhere close to 100%.
  2. Irrelevant to the point.
  3. You're conflating an "anti-AI movement" with just not liking AI.
  4. I never made any claims about banning AI or even fighting against it, really. Not sure why you're ascribing that to me, and it doesn't provide any argument to the main claim that "disliking AI is always from right-wing capitalism".
  5. While I get your overall point here and mostly agree that AI is 'just a tool', the rest of your point is based on banning, which is not part of the discussion. Also, it's a pretty false equivalent argument, but I assume you're not expecting it to be a 1:1 comparison, just trying to make the point that it's just a tool and should not be labeled as inherently bad.
  6. Once again, you're conflating an "anti-AI movement" with just not liking AI. I don't know if there' some big coordinated "anti-AI movement" that makes that argument in particular and I've somehow never heard of it or seen any evidence of, but it seems to me you've created a fake, absurd strawman.
  7. That's great and helps obviate one of my main issues with AI.

In total, you've made zero arguments for the logic that any sentiment of disliking AI should be met with hostility and all comes from a source of “right-wing liberals”. All I see is unfounded attempts of vilifying people who simply disagree with you by shoving a label onto them.

Personally, I can see some use for AI in very specific cases, and it still needs to be babied and the result double checked. But yeah, AI being mostly controlled by big corporations is a major part of the AI problem.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The first point i s a fact not an opinion. Example. I am an anarchist, and that makes you what? It makes you nothing. You are you and who or what I decide to be shouldn't and generally doesn't directly impact that. Now let's say you had a bad experience with an anarchist. And as a result you have chosen to be anti anarchist. That is a reaction, and by definition reactionary. That's all it really means. Nothing nefarious Etc.

Point two. I absolutely see it from a leftist point of view. But yes that's not going to hold true for everyone even if I wish it did.

With point three. And most of the rest. I think they were trying to express their understanding and seek clarification on your part much as I have. What IS anti AI. Is it purely reactionary and without thought. Or is it more considered, focused on the dangers posed by authoritarians and fascists empowered by those tools. I'm leaning towards thinking its generally the latter. However it seems one or both of you might be talking passed the other. I doubt you disagree as much as you think you might.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Your argument is that having an opinion on something is by definition reactionary? That makes no sense.

You're reading the entire discussion wrong. My entire point is that they are actually calling people who show literally any dislike in AI a "right wing neoliberal", and that is just flat-out wrong.

I'm not talking past anyone. I was trying to discuss that point in particular and no one wanted to explain the logic behind it. (Which makes sense considering it's an insane take in the first place.)

There is no universe where I would even come close to agreeing with that completely mental attitude.