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Shit. So proton vpn it is? Their ceo is also not amazing, I heard. But doesn't sound as bad as this mullvad debacle
He had some bad ideas, but hasn't yet been caught financing fascism if i remember correctly
He talked up the Trump administration when he should have known better, but talking them up is not as extreme as funding them. I think. YMMV.
If you’re stupid enough to believe that tripe or cynical enough to spread it you’re on my shit list. He’s either complicit or an idiot, either way not someone I’m giving money
Besides financing fascist YouTube's including a French fascist and the Brazilian son of a dictator who was one of the leaders of a fascist coup.
Besides those.
https://www.ivpn.net/ maybe?
About the best we can do perhaps lol
Looks like it might be okay. Price is pretty good. I have time left on my current Mullvad sub, so I'll have to find a new provider in the next 3-4 weeks.
AirVPN, IVPN, and/or cryptostorm
The first thing I found when searching for IVPN is that they're based in Gibraltar.
That means British Law, meaning special information courts with court orders for mass trawling which they can't divulge to the public if they receive one, worse than the US even because in the British version of those courts there are things like the defense lawyer not being able to be present for court hearings and never getting told if the court rules against them, only if the court ruled in their favor.
That's almost as bad as choosing an Israeli-owned VPN.
I did use cryptostorm ages ago, but at least back then their speed was like 1Mb/s. Maybe they're better now.
Somebody else pointed out that AirVPN is based in Italy, which is a member of the 14 eyes. No idea how nasty their surveillance laws are or not, though I doubt they're as nasty as the UK.
Proton has done some questionable things as well. The most recent is this.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446899
I feel like I've seen AirVPN recommended in the past. Do they have any dark history or security downsides?
I moved to air vpn when mullvad disallowed port forwarding over the vpn and I have been pretty happy. When i looked into security audits it seemed to be the closest to mullvad in quality, while still letting be get a port though the VPN. I did not look into their founders politics. Until reading this today i had still been reccomending mullvad to all my friends that were not hosting stuff and im pretty pissed that i had been doing that now.
dint proton also donated to the far right too.