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Luminous5481's ban (lemmy.ca)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by Shadow@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.ca

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Some recent threads have pulled lemmy.ca into the drama around lemmy.world and Luminous5481. We banned them a few days before LW did, and claims have been made that we're aligned with LW in the pro-zionist behavior LW has been accused of.

~8 days ago Luminous had "murder all Zionists" in their name, during which time they banned recursive_recursion@piefed.ca from the community agitprop memes. The reason given was "zionism, genocide apologia" with a 74 year expiry time. Recursive saw this, was confused and insulted by the insinuation / threat, and retaliatory banned Luminous. This happened 2 days before the LW issue began, and from our point of view was unrelated.

Recursive posted in our internal chat immediately after they placed the ban, letting us all know. We all agreed that being flippant about who Luminous labels a zionist while also repeatedly calling for the murder of zionists, wasn't appropriate for lemmy.ca. It violates our of our "Be Civil" rule, and is toxic behaviour that doesn't belong here.

None of us knew at the time why Recursive had been banned, although yesterday while digging I found this thread. Luminous placed the ban because Recursive had banned Deceptichum@quokk.au with a "suspiciously similar ban message" to one MrKaplan used. Recursive used "Troll and perpetual history of bad faith behavior" vs MrKaplan removing a comment as "troll". That's a pretty shitty reason to label someone a zionist genocide apologist, while you're calling for the murder of all zionists.

None of us support Israel, we're all horrified by what they're doing. That doesn't mean throwing around death threats on Lemmy should be tolerated.

Context if you're unfamiliar with this issue:

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[–] Domino@quokk.au 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I was asked to share this here as the user cannot themselves.

The ban for Deceptichum was not only suspiciously worded, it came almost instantly after the one from Lemmy.World. There is zero context for the ban beyond basically copying what MrKaplans ban was and adding outright lies about bad-faith behaviour.

I was banned from the entire instance and had every single one of my communities, even those moderated by other users deleted from Lemmy.Ca because I use the word 'ZioNazi' to describe an origination? There was no death threats or any thing else beyond such a basic statement and this happened before anything to do with Luminous. I can't see where in the rules that word results in such a extreme response.

Not once had I ever received any moderation from lemmy.ca, and had only ever participated in this instance in good faith. Posting music, sharing TIL's, posting Canadian news, etc. The decision to wipe my entire existence off of this instance can only be seen as directed by MrKaplan and enacted by recursive_recursion due to MrKaplans personal feelings around the word 'ZioNazi' of which he took great offence to the 'Nazi' part as he is apparently German.

Edit: - Is the comment that I was instance banned and communities like !world@quokk.au were removed for. Is that really a justified response?

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago

I was asked to share this here as the user cannot themselves.

Thanks.

We're still reviewing Deceptichum's ban internally and will follow up in the next day or so once we've had a chance to dig / discuss more.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I am frustrated to have communities I run removed by the Lemmy.ca team and still no reason given.

Like I said a few days ago, it very much feels like you are in cahoots with Lemmy.world

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Removing all the communities wasn't intentional, we've restored https://lemmy.ca/c/world@quokk.au so far and will go through the rest.

Edit: I've restored all of these -

       id    |       name       |                actor_id
     ---------+------------------+----------------------------------------
      1547851 | anarchymemes     | https://anarchist.nexus/c/anarchymemes
      1483002 | 90s_memes        | https://quokk.au/c/90s_memes
      1505780 | acab             | https://quokk.au/c/acab
      1352665 | ausmusic         | https://quokk.au/c/ausmusic
      1546155 | auspol           | https://quokk.au/c/auspol
      1546127 | australia        | https://quokk.au/c/australia
      1586724 | clips            | https://quokk.au/c/clips
      1332922 | emo              | https://quokk.au/c/emo
      1402823 | greeneggsandspam | https://quokk.au/c/greeneggsandspam
      1620458 | historygallery   | https://quokk.au/c/historygallery
      1620049 | historymusic     | https://quokk.au/c/historymusic
      1677786 | mop              | https://quokk.au/c/mop
      1555028 | musicvideos      | https://quokk.au/c/musicvideos
      1567365 | peoplemastodon   | https://quokk.au/c/peoplemastodon
      1463985 | philosophymemes  | https://quokk.au/c/philosophymemes
      1076676 | shitprop         | https://quokk.au/c/shitprop
      1421739 | sigh_fi          | https://quokk.au/c/sigh_fi
       975270 | SighFi           | https://quokk.au/c/SighFi
      1560152 | usa              | https://quokk.au/c/usa
      1407065 | videos           | https://quokk.au/c/videos
      1330813 | weird            | https://quokk.au/c/weird
      1485860 | y2k_memes        | https://quokk.au/c/y2k_memes

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 0 points 4 days ago

Thank you!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Oh man ...

If only there was other instances where you could host communities..

it very much feels like you are in cahoots with Lemmy.world

The big communities act the same, because that's what most fedivwrse users wanted.

If most people wanted db0, .ml, or any other flavor of instance, then those would be the most popular.

You think the popular ones are coordinating, when it's just they're all popular for the same reason in the first place.

If the shit you want was what most people wanted, most people would be on instance like yours.