I don't think so, this new class has a considerable purchasing power, that capitalists would try to compete for. Also, their entire life quality is dependent on how much the capitalist class tolerates them.

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, their entire life quality is dependent on how much the capitalist class tolerates them.

Doesn't sound that different from how the current working class is treated.

[–] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's very different. The workers provide labor, which the capitalists need. Those on UBI provide nothing, they can't strike because they don't produce anything. The capitalist class, can't eliminate the working class because it relies on it. But the UBI will come mainly from taxation on capitalist profits.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Labour is not the only thing capitalists need from the workers, they're also at the same time commodity consumers. Even when reaching an advanced level of automation, the capitalists will need people to purchase their products which is where UBI enters the picture. Interestingly, the "UBI" class could actually strike by not consuming stuff.

Anyways i think you're just overthinking, the UBI in the imperial core is only a labour subsidy.

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Only if the view is that labor must produce profit. Imagine those who write that first novel, paint that first mural, or aid the elderly, because they can financially afford to spend time do those things. A sidewalk chalk artist making everyone's day better with their whimsical takes. Someone at 40, deciding to go back to school as a change in profession, or to gain knowledge for knowledge sake. UBI would only be enough to cover basic necessities, things governments should ensure for everyone anyways. For some people, the basic would be enough.