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Israel’s foreign minister has said that an arms embargo on his country would lead to the elimination of the Israeli state and “a second Holocaust”.

Gideon Saar was speaking on Tuesday at an international conference on antisemitism in Jerusalem.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The eliminiation of the Israeli state doesnt have to cause a second holocaust. Just go back to where you, your parents and your grandparents lived before you invaded other peoples homes.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But it's way easier to kill some people in the Middle East and give their land away than taking actual responsibilty for the Holocaust.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 10 months ago

And more profitable 💰

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Netanyahu would have to go back to Philadelphia

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Sir, Philadelphia is on the line. They say it's urgent.

[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

great, just what the US needs.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I'm willing to compromise.

The people born there can stay, but they have to become Palestinian.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I'm firmly against the Palestinian genocide, but, isn't this a little ridiculous? Shouldn't we just focus on ending the killings and stopping further colonization?

Like, as a 4th generation Canadian, do I need to go back to Ireland to make up for my great great grandparent's generation's gross history of colonial genocide?

You don't need to evict Jewish people to end Zionism.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The difference is that there are quite a lot of Palestinians alive today who had their homes stolen, and Israel keeps stealing more everyday. And they do it because they have always been allowed to keep what they stole in the past.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, so give Palestinians right of return. There's plenty of land there to share. Make Israelis pay reparations.

Like how is the land I'm living on not functionally stolen? My entire country used to be Indigenous land, and it became as it is because it was "allowed" (forced).

The Jewish children who were born there aren't colonists, and they shouldn't have to suffer for their parents' colonial acts.

The main imperative is to end the ongoing colonialism and genocide.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

Yeah, so give Palestinians right of return.

That would require expelling a huge number of Israelis, given they literally live in stolen houses. One in every ten Israelis lives in illegal West Bank settlements

Make Israelis pay reparations.

That would require defeating Israel in a war.

Like how is the land I’m living on not functionally stolen?

It is, but at least you didn't literally steal your literal house from a person who is still alive today..

The Jewish children who were born there aren’t colonists

And the Israeli colonists currently driving people out of their houses to take them over and have children there know that you think this, which is why they're stealing land in such a way as to make a Palestine state impossible without kicking them out.

The main imperative is to end the ongoing colonialism and genocide.

Which is impossible while the illegal settlements remain.

[–] GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

have you not seen the Greater IsraEl map? They plan to take farrrr more land, and will return nothing.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its really not ridiculous. Imagine if the west still kept all its african colonies that were captured during WW2 times. Thats what Israel is, only that it is even younger. Basically all of its jewish population is either first or second generation immigrants/settlers.

[–] gobbles_turkey@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thats just flatly not realistic. Polling shows that Israelis on average are entitled, racist and violent. A plurality of them want every non jewish person expelled from Israel, citizen or not. And 47% of them want every Gazan killed, no matter their innocence. about 80% think the way the war is being executed in Gaza is just and should continue. They are fine with war crimes.

Its easy to conclude that they will not live in peace with anyone if they feel they control any state apparatus.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

go back to Ireland

Sis... do you think Ireland had colonies?