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[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So what was the USSR doing in those places?

[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Read about literacy rates, poverty and life expectancy for starters. “Building hospitals and schools” is the answer to “so what was the ussr doing in those countries” lmao get better propaganda. The prop I choose to follow is atleast backed by LOTS of history.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not following propaganda, I lived it. My family left the Eastern block looking for a better life. I was born in West Germany myself, my mother told me the reason for that was that she had a terrible time giving birth to my older brother back home.

Hearing stories of life under Soviet control from all my family contradicts post I see here glorifying the USSR. I don't understand why this contradiction exists, so I'm trying to ask people why they came to the conclusion that the USSR was good. And in particular here how occupying countries against their will is a good thing?

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

omfg no wonder you sympathise with nazis

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

So you did not actually "live it"

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The same as it was doing by helping national liberation movements in Vietnam, Cuba, Algeria, and more: trying to spread socialism and weaken imperialism, which is what was holding the USSR in siege.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't those counties welcomed help from the USSR and the countries I mentioned not. What your saying just sounds like a different flavor of "spreading democracy" to me.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Germany was governed by Nazis prior to the establishment of the GDR. In both countries, existing communist organizing existed, and like with other countries the USSR aided them. The key difference between the USSR spreading socialism and the US Empire "spreading democracy" is that the USSR really did spread socialism, while the US Empire instead spread death and destruction to plunder these countries.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The USSR spread socialism by force though, did the not? Weather your spreading democracy or socialism, using tanks and violence against an occupied people seems bad to me.

Also, what about Afghanistan?

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Afghanistan was invaded by western powers multiple times and USSR actually respected Afghanistan and formed diplomatic relations. But of course we can't have that so the US Empire through CIA funded terrorists to overthrow the government back in the 70s.

As usual it is your fucking projection that sees the USSR doing what your favourite western empire does.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Spreading good things is good, spreading bad things under the guise of spreading good things is bad. The USSR said they were spreading socialism and actually did so, the US Empire claims it spreads democracy but actually spreads genocide and violence, in order to establish imperialist relations.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Spreading anything by taking and maintaining control over a territory and its people is by definition, colonialism, is it not.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The soviets intervened at the request of factions in Afghanistan that had already taken power, though had not solidified it. They did not establish a colony nor expropriate wealth.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Just so I'm clear, are you saying a majority of the Afghan people wanted the Soviets in Afghanistan? Because that's not how I understand the situation being.

Also, was my definition of colonialism wrong?

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The legally and internationally recognized government of Afghanistan requested the Soviets for help many times until they decided to help them out. Literally google it.

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the dude is quite literally a descendant of Nazis considering his other post.

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Sounds like at least a nazi sympathizer yeah but in case anyone else is reading it might help them learn more about the topic, which is very complicated ofc but definitely not "USSR bad"

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

That's not what I asked.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The legitimate government of Afghanistan requested support. Afghanistan had many factions and infighting, but the legitimate government specifically requested support, which the soviets responded to.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's not what I asked though. Did the majority of the Afghan people want the Soviets to intervene? Its my understanding that most Afghans didn't want the Soviets there, given how they overthrew the government a few years after the Soviets left.

Was my definition of colonialism wrong?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

The majority of Afghans did not want any one thing, it was highly factional. The government that invited the soviets in was a revolutionary government itself in the first place, from the winning faction at the time. Do you think the majority of Afghans wanted civil war? Without a clear majority, you have to focus on what's actually good and legitimate.

Your definition wasn't necessarily wrong outright, just not at all applicable to the soviets in Afghanistan. Your definition is severely lacking in the fact that colonialism is extractionary and set up for that purpose, for example.

[–] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

okay you Nazi, you should go back to your Reddit home