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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They were still doing a genocide under joe biden. She did nothing to distance herself from the admin and the only people to blame for her loss are herself and her enablers.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well you can call it that if you want, but no one has ever used that term for similar actions in the past. It confuses things. And it actually minimizes the word, giving it less power for now when we need it.
But it honestly sounds like you are happy trump won and you are good with the horrific results in the ME. You do you, I guess.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no one has ever used that term for similar actions in the past.

They have, it's been a genocide. The whole point of the genocide convention was to stop them while they're happening, not to preserve the term for historical labeling and partisan bickering. The person cynically wielding and demeaning the term is you, because you only recognize genocide when it's not 'your guy' doing it.

People like you disgust me. So invested in team loyalty you will minimize a genocide to avoid admitting your own parties participation. Just because I criticize democrats for their complicity doesn't mean I am happy Trump won.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I have no loyalty to Israel. Your blind disgust of anyone who doesn't 110% agree with your semantics just makes you sound ignorant.
I would agree that what Israel has been doing for a year now is genocide. Israel is attacking civilians with intent to destroy the people of Gaza for their religious/racial association. That's genocide. However, before this, their stated goal was to eliminate the military capabilities of Hamas. It was war. Hamas was firing unguided rockets at Israel, Israel was hitting Hamas targets (with a terrible disregard for civilians casualties from proximity or poorly determined targets). That's no more genocide than the UK bombing Nazi Germany's military production areas in wwii. Typical uses of the term genocide in the past have involved selective targeting of particular races within an area, and the intent to 'purify' the population. This makes it even a stretch to apply the term to Israel now but it's ambiguous because of the severe ethnic divide between Israel and Gaza. That said, there are plenty of Arabs and Muslims inside Israel (not including Gaza or wb). They are not being killed. They don't have full rights, so one might call this an apartheid.
So yes Israel is evil and should be stopped, but it's important not to be revisionist here, especially regarding the democratic platform in the last US election vis a vis Israel. Making such a distinction between now and then allows things to change for the better. We can allow people to change their stance and now push back on Israel, which is the goal - not just crying about being a victim perpetually and assigning blame.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

You have no loyalty to 'Israel' yet you spend all this energy denying their genocide and doing hasbara on their behalf.

comparing occupied Palestinians to Nazi Germany is absolutely vile. They're not a military power threatening 'Israel', they're a captive population being exterminated.

It's been an obvious genocidal apartheid state since the Nakba in 1948.

Democrats didn't 'change their stance', they armed the entity through election day and lost defending it. You're still making excuses. That's the team loyalty I called you out for.

the person saying I have blind hatred:

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

You really should learn to read, and not be blinded by your hatred. But I won't hold my breath. You shit on everyone else not perfectly aligned with your perspective, even people calling out Isreal now. See how well that helps the situation.