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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 104 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Next to Bernie she's the best the Dems have to offer. And for any possible run for President, she beats Bernie on age.

If they run Harris again, or Newsom or some other conservative Democrat in 2028, the party is fucked.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Newsom is trying his level best to have a right-of-center glow up right now. I'm almost certain that the DNC plans to tilt the scales for him. They likely will resist running a woman again for a long time because they've stupidly come to the conclusion that it was the genitalia of the candidates and not the quality of the candidate, campaign, and platform that caused them to lose what should have been two of the most winnable elections ever.

[–] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

Progressive woman of color

Or

Conservative white guy with (D) next to his name.

Pretty sure we can guess who will win the primary if they can help it. DNC leadership is not interested in what it's membership wants.

Absolutely. I can't see AOC being given a chance in 2028 unfortunately, unless things change a bit. Not excited for Newsom as a candidate :/

[–] Master@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Her as president and Bernie as vp. If they kill her then they put someone even more opposed to their views in power.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As much as I absolutely adore Bernie, the guy needs a rest. He'd be starting as VP for a potential 8 year period of two terms at 86.....That means he'd be 94 by the time he left office. The man is an absolute beast, but father time catches up with us all and I don't want to see his final days in politics to be a sad decline after everything he's given. He deserves to serve as a badass senator, like he always has, until a progressive gets elected as president and then retire.

AOC and Pete Buttigeig as VP, on the other hand......or Tim Waltz again......or Elizabeth Warren for a double team, all woman ticket? Hell yeah.

[–] esltdoar@piefed.social 9 points 1 year ago

yeah, one of the reasons the dems are a dead/dying brand currently is because they keep putting in who they feel has earned it the most, not who the population actually likes. That also leads to entire party embarrassment when they fight for that person and they turn out to be an abysmal milquetoast failure like Biden.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

AOC - Crockett?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

The Gore Strategy

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You guys need more than just two relevant parties. AOC being this popular should prompt her to start her own movement, supported by Bernie, raher than clinging to the "Democrats".

[–] __dev@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They need election reform for that to happen.

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

And the only way election reform happens is if we get the corporate Dems who like things the way they are (AKA roughly all of them) out of power. It's damn near hopeless.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll trust her judgment on that one.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seeing how it's going in USA rn I don't trust any judgment coming from the country whatsoever

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

thanks, that's helpful

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

Ideally, we get an democrat Bernie or AOC presidency, who then runs for a second term as an independent. Incumbents tend to have name recognition, which would make it easier to give the DNC the Old Yeller treatment. The Geronocrats have a callow ambition, even if progressives manage to Tea Party things. After all, the DNC's bluebloods will want to retake the throne. It would be best if the throne that they treasure was lost outright.

[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agree but have the senior members support and coach AOC, have a united front. We're supposed to support and learn from our elders but they have an obligation to move aside and allow the younger leaders to rise.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

Support, yes. Not too sure about coaching, though, I think she's doing great without needing to consult old white people

Agree but have the senior members support and coach AOC

lol the dweebs that can't win a slam dunk election because they are too busy running corporate friendly husks

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Of course they will. Harris or Buttigeig