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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

As long as you accept that you are playing into their strategy to instigate a civil war which they've been working toward years, if not decades, sure.

Alternatively, we could opt to listen to experts on fascism, recognize the systemic issues that give rise to it (like economic instability and wealth inequality), make a concerted effort to address those concerns, win over the working class which the left has neglected for the last 60 years, and bring the temperature down for centrists thereby cutting off the primary weapon of fascism...

But we'll probably do it the dumb way.

Edit: for the record, I'm fully convinced there are psyops going on here on Lemmy, and the people like you trying to push us further toward violence and civil unrest are either them, or useful idiots helping them.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It already is a civil war. One side thinks having the moral high ground means not having to show up.

What you’re suggesting is a shaky strategy for fighting standard GOP misbehavior two, three decades ago. Wake up and look around.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to be mean, but I do think you need to hear this: touch grass. This is a big deal to Americans, but it's pretty much politics as usual for like 70% of the world. Recognize that the fact that we get to think it's a big deal is part of our entitlement.

I get it, trump is testing limits, he's got ICE rounding people up, he's trying to deploy the military into states, he's painting innocents as terrorists. And I'm telling you, it's not popular. He doesn't have the support to pull this off, he's doing what he's doing not because he's strong but because he's weak, desperate, and he knows it.

Right now, he desperately wants this to devolve into violence, because like any demagogue, he can't be a functional politician, he can only fight invisible enemies. He's trying to provoke a war in time for midterms. Don't give him what he wants. Stand united in peace with the vast majority of people who don't want this to continue.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

MAGA is gaining ground against you every fucking day and has been for years with zero opposition.

People like you are the reason.

“I’m not trying to be mean.” 🤣 of course you’re not- you’re not capable of it. If you were, you might have a shot at being useful. I promise you nobody is horribly hurt by milquetoast “mean words” from a coward who won’t lift a finger to stop his neighbors from being kidnapped.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

First off, Trump is one thing, but MAGA is losing ground. Source. As soon as trump entered office, the MAGA movement stalled and has started trending back down. This is because he's been given the every lever, and as expected, he's botching it.

Second, you're interpreting what I'm saying in the way you want to hear it. Absolutely go protest, get naked and stand in front of a tank, douse yourself in oil and set yourself aflame on the whitehouse lawn, sound the alarm so that everyone hears through all the noise. And like always: defend yourself and those around you from criminals using whatever means you have.

But we are at the ideal time to appeal to MAGA. Look at all the Republicans breaking from him over the shutdown. MAGA is to the right what Occupy WallSt was to the youth before the rich steered it back to a left/right old/young thing. There are systemic problems, and people are seeing that targeting the "woke" isn't going to solve it. They are soon going to be forced to demand working solutions. He can only blame Biden for so long.

Of course, nothing i say will convince some people. There are a class of horny idiots who desperately need to act on their frail emotions, give trump what he wants, and go out in the streets with MAGA to aggressively suck each other off. You are free to be in that group if you want, but know that you're not helping anyone but yourself and the fascist movement. (Of course you and I both know that the only fingers you're lifting are from your keyboard to downvote someone you disagree with 🤣).

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We cannot address any of the root causes of fascism while fascists control all the levers of power.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

The fact that we're able to have this conversation means we still have the power that matters most. And the fact that they hold all political offices means they get blamed for any unrest. It's why every incumbent in every election in the world in 2024 lost support, and it's why trump is so afraid of the midterms.

Meanwhile, Bernie and AOC are holding successful rallies in southern states, and local candidates like Graham Platner are gaining traction. The right has spent decades shifting blame away from the rich, and it seems people are finally getting wise to it. It sucks that they had to see how bad it could get with their own eyes before figuring it out, but that's just how humanity works, it seems.