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What's the ML perspective on Uyghurs? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 6 months ago by SheWasSpeaking@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml
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My partner is Lebanese and one issue that has consistently come up with any discussion of Marxism (and honestly the online left as a whole) is Uyghur genocide denial. Essentially, they see it as proof of (white) western leftists being hypocrites and having a glaring Islamophobia problem. I'm inclined to defer to them, but at the same time, I've found myself often politically aligning with MLs on other issues, and I know very little about Chinese internal politics or the Uyghurs myself, so I would greatly appreciate being able to get an understanding of what the ML perspective is.

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[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
  1. Always assume the US is lying or it's the opposite of what they're claiming
  2. We are seeing what a genocide looks like in real time, there's no way that China could cover all of that up.
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

While i support and mantain an "always against the US" stance, not everything is a lie. The US has pragmatically supported causes that may very well be just because it happened to align with their interests in the respective region, e.g. the SDF in Syria. Understanding the nuances and opposing their opportunism in their alliance with US imperialism is a much better position than just outright denying their struggles. They're our enemies not because their struggles are illegitimate, but because they have sided with the global reactionary force in the US.

[–] haui@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 6 months ago

It still is apt to generally take a contra us stance and let yourself be corrected by evidence. Its much less brainpower. Hitler probably did something "right" in the eyes of aryan german citizens from time to time. That does not mean one should accept that he "did some things right".

The fascists are evil. They were under biden, under merkel, under macron. Western fascism (which is my polemic way to call capitalism even before the gas chambers), is just that, evil. ;)