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Armed guard members will carry the type of weapon they are normally issued and trained on, typically M17 handguns and M4 semiautomatic rifles, similar to assault-style rifles, the Defense Department officials said. Some guard members will carry M9 pistols.

The military weapons are similar to those used by local police departments across the United States. The M4 is a standard semiautomatic rifle and has roughly the same capabilities as semiautomatic rifles used by law enforcement agencies.

Completely incorrect. NBC is clearly trying to downplay the seriousness of this. M4 rifles are not assault "style". They are assault rifles, fullstop. The M4, and other assault rifles, are not legal for civilian use. They have full automatic or burst fire capability, depending on the specific model.

The weapons these soldiers are carrying are not AR-15s. These are not "assault weapons". These are weapons of war. They are not for civilian hunters or shooting competitions. They are for killing human beings.

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Emotional Support Assault Rifles?

Also, isn't the M4A1 an improvement on the M16 (which is based on the AR15 platform)?

I'd argue the M4A1 is a /great/ firearm. Are there other ARs that have better features? Yes. Have I shot an M4A1 in combat? Nope. But I have shot an M4A1. Compared to other rifles I've shot (OK this is limited), the M4A1 just feels good to shoot. It's not painful, it's pretty damn accurate, and you can add stuff to make it really fit you. It is pretty good for medium, medium-long shooting.

Also, I don't know why people buy automatic rifles. It's not accurate, and if you don't know what you're doing, you're going to cause damage to the gun. Semi-auto single fire/burst is where it's at because when you fire a gun, you want to hit what you're intending to hit.

OK, now the reason I'm replying. If you asked me five years ago if firearms are necessary, I'd have said no. It's great fun but wholly unnecessary. I have since changed my opinion.

The federal government is supposed to protect us from tyrannical state governments. The state government is supposed to protect us from tyrannical federal governments through militias. The issue is, a lot of states don't have an official state militia outside of the National Guard (note: if you're not authorized by the state you're not a militia, you're a terrorist group). With the current federal government taking control of the state militia (national guard) to use against the states, we're reaching a time where either the state-only militias need to do something because this breaks MANY laws or we actually need to defend ourselves.

I oppose outright banning AR-15 and derivatives. While they won't stop a tank from destroying your neighborhood, or a bomber from taking out your neighborhood, they are a deterrent if we start exercising our 2a right against non-uniformed people kidnapping the citizens off the street. I think the states should allow it, and the states should highly regulate these guns.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

My understanding is the M4 is a carbine length instead of a full rifle. While the M16 is the full length version that came first. Note the 16 vs the 4, since the US started the category numbering system, there had been 16 different rifles (starting with the M1 Garand) while only having 4 carbines.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Emotional Support Assault Rifles?

Yeah. It refers to the gun nuts who can't even see a mention of a firearm without talking about how good it makes them feel to use one as their hand slides lower and lower down their pants.

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Very funny but I’ve seen literally nobody act like that outside of comedy sketches.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Considering that I was poking the guy I replied to who couldn't resist talking about how

the M4A1 just feels good to shoot

in a thread theoretically about using the national guard as militarized police?

Maybe... get some glasses?

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Thats not the same as sexualizing the gun and you know it.