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Jeremy Corbyn's New Group Sounds Very Much Like Another Party Which Is Rising On The Left
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Corbyn has already led a party to victory though. Despite it being coup'd by Starmer afterwards.
Last I checked, Labour lost in 2019.
Labour got a MUCH higher vote share under Corbyn than under starmer. Even in 2019.
And? They still didn't win, so the claim Corbyn led them to victory is wrong.
Surely you're not going to say that Keir Starmer is what led Labour to victory.
Don't put words in my mouth because you don't have a counter to my argument. I've said pretty consistently that 2024 was a Tory loss, not a Labour victory. That doesn't change the fact that Corbyn lost both General Elections he was leader for, so what victory did he lead the party to? The Boris Johnson premiership?
What is your argument exactly? Is it just that you don’t like Corbyn? Some fucking intellect there pal.
Corbyn did lead Labour to victory. The victory of energising an entire generation and getting them interested in politics. Thousands of people became activists because of his work. You don’t think winning votes is the only possible form of victory do you?
Oh god. These far right adjacent fascists and their facts. They're everywhere. /s
That's said, we collectively elected a different set of cunts doing exactly the same thing as this lot.
What do you mean by the second point? Lumping Corbyn in with Oversteer Keir?
No. The Tories and Labour have had the same migration (and other) policy(ies) for years.
I'm Gen X, so as far as I'm concerned Corbyn is just an updated Michael Foot of my formative era. Except that MF's (oooh I hadn't realised that was the abbreviation) hobbyhorse was nuclear disarmament as I recall.
The older I get, the more liberal I get, but today's youth are moving faster than me far far left displaying extreme authoritarian tactics. The inability of kids to get decent jobs, the apparent pointlessness of a uni education, and homes being out of affordability must play into that, but I don't understand the rest of it really.
The seventies in the UK was just like this - I was very young pre teen - everything felt hopeless. Electricity was very limited - four hours a day. Rubbish and corpses piled up everywhere in the UK. I understand what it's like. I've been though this before.
The Tories are looking for the next Mrs T to come save everyone. The circumstances which created Mrs T are no longer available and they wouldn't recognise them/him/her if they did. Labour have no clue what they want but they know that they want to micro manage it to the n-th degree - the world needs more micromanaging bosses(!); that's the reaction of someone who is terrified.
At the end of the day, the "West" and I hesitate to say the whole world is having a population crisis. The minimum babies per woman is way below 2.1 replacement, South Korea is at 0.7, the UK is at 1.7. Japan is about the same. The people are needed to maintain growth and pay the pensions at least.
Rather than fixing the problems they are looking at the symptoms.
I think you covered a lot of why the youth are annoyed. The only difference is they have self-esteem and know things should be better. I cannot disagree.
Older folk in politics have a mindset of "I suffered, and so should you." It's quite devoid of empathy or nurturing of the future generations. Old people vote, vote for self-interest and nothing changes for the good for the young. It's a conveyor belt of disenfranchisement. Voting age decrease is a first thing in a while that'll touch that.
I seem to get more left as I get older. The most accurate take for me... "if you can afford to kill people, you can afford to help people". I guess if you have disdain for Michael Foot, you won't be keen on the chap who said that.
I will agree we are not fixing the problems though. No politician with a spine to kill the triple lock. Popping out babies will sustain this broken system but probably consume the planet. I'd rather we saved the planet than capitalism tbh.
Corbyn’s hobbyhorse is also nuclear disarmament. He even (stupidly) said on TV that if elected, his letter of last resort would read “do not fire. surrender to the nearest friendly port”
If a nuclear war kicks off, it would be better to be in the middle of it being deatomised and doing the experiments that don't currently work in LHC. Not sure how to publish the results ..
'Mercans have this idea that the second amendment (and case law attached) makes them safer in their own homes. I think anyone outside 'Merca can see the reality. Australia used to have guns and they ditched them.
Given the choice I'd still rather have them than not. However, having enough to blow the shit out of the world more than a couple of times does seem pointless waste of resources. I'd rather put the money into making fusion work outside an H bomb.
Ah yes, Corbyn’s delusional claim that he “won the argument” while simultaneously achieving Labour’s worst election defeat since the 1930s.