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Or they'll blame you for roping them into this exploitative shitshow with a side of climate apocalypse, and they'll be correct.

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[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I say stop having kids to wholly avert the undeserved and nonconsensual suffering that is inherent to a sentient life and suffering across sentient lives should be minimized

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Buddhists hate this one weird trick.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was a christian sect that managed to be so sucessful at this, it went extinct.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Better than the enthusiastic nihilism in this thread, tbh.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mind expanding a bit more on that? Not trying to take a jab at you. I really want to understand.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just a joke about practicing what you preach, I suppose.

I think we all write our own stories, for ourselves and humanity at large. If we're able to turn this ship around, it won't be because of the attitudes in this thread. It will be in spite of them.

Kids are great. Life is challenging but worth living and worth fighting for.

Positive perspective is valuable, and cynicism is just lazy counterproductive nonsense without it.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe you used Nihilism wrong in your previous comment based on what you've written here. I think more fitting words are hopelessness, pessimism, or defeatism.

Nihilism is simply refutation of meaning within the world. You can still think kids are great and that life is worth living while believing that there is no meaning to life or any of the other nihilistic assertions. You can even choose to attribute new meaning to your life, as Nietzsche's Übermensch does. See also Absurdism.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I did not. I was referring to a specific premise involved, which includes "extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence." Which is relevant and appropriate. In short. But philosophy 101 is always enjoyable to discuss.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes, there is philosophical pessimism and skepticism within nihilism, but those can be mostly or entirely separated from the philosophical stances espoused by nihilists.

I would argue that most of the comments we see in this thread actually show is more of David Benatar's antinatalist argument which is apart of philosophical pessimism. You don't have to be a nihilist to agree with what he is arguing in it.

[–] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

But yet, they do

[–] StraponStratos@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah, the world will be so much better off when only the stupidest people are having kids.

Although if you take your advice from a meme, I suppose nothing of value would be lost.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Neither my nonexistent kids nor I owe a world with shmucks like you, jack shit.

[–] StraponStratos@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s the problem isn’t it? You parasites who think they owe the world nothing and can just take whenever they want without giving back.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Nobody asked us if we consented to existing but just like with pit bulls, the solution is to stop breeding, not to kill them off. I owe nobody anything and I'm actually being very kind not to demand wha this owed to me by my parents since I do understand they didn't know any better.

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, just fuck right off. If you don't want children, just don't have children and shut up about it instead of making yourself feel superior by making it a moral thing. And if you're actually just concerned about them ending up in the meat grinder of exploitation, get organized to rid the world of the capitalists and save all the children from that fate. Stop whining about how terrible the world is and start making it better.

[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 years ago

Antinatalism was huge with techbros on Reddit, sad to see it’s here too.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would not having kids punish men?

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No fucking clue either. Some kind of random misogyny most likely

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying that the idea of women punishing men by not being good little brood mares is misogyny.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Suuuuuuure buddy