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Summary

Proton Mail, known for its privacy-first email services, faced backlash after CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party and its antitrust stance.

The company initially posted and deleted a statement supporting Yen’s comments, later claiming an “internal miscommunication” and reiterating its political neutrality.

Critics question Proton’s impartiality, particularly as it cooperates with Swiss authorities on legal data requests.

Privacy advocates warn that political alignments could undermine trust, especially for Proton’s users—journalists and activists wary of government surveillance under administrations like Trump’s.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just when I'm done migrating all my email shit to Proton, the CEO turns out to be a nazi. A classic.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Only way to make sure your email isn’t run by a Nazi is to run it yourself.

Unless you’re a Nazi in which case FUCK OFF

[–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While the comments were not welcome and left a sour taste, we are blowing it a bit out of proportion here.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You don’t get to decide how other people feel and respond to the issue.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Person A has an opinion, that is allowed. Person B has opinion, that is not allowed.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Lol I read this thread first, then went to the article and his comments were supportive of the potential for anti-trust legislation under the new administration? That makes him a Nazi? Wtf 😂

This is a huge reason why Lemmy faces an uphill battle in terms of growth, these absolutely batshit insane political takes pollute most threads about newsworthy events, which are in many ways the lifeblood of a content aggregator.

I can't even count the number of times I've seen people say they tried Lemmy for a little while but eventually stopped because they got sick of every thread and community being constantly flooded with Nazi comparisons, accusations of genocide denial, and guillotine the rich stuff.

Like I get it, I really do, but maybe direct some of that righteous anger into some kind of real world activism instead of constantly bitching at anonymous strangers on Lemmy. These people are so outraged and the situation is so dire, and yet they continue to scroll online forums and farm upvotes? Have some ideological consistency ffs, if it's a matter of life and death, go out there and do something to help.

Doomposting on Lemmy accomplishes nothing, and in fact continues to marginalize one of the few tools that we could potentially have to fight back. If Lemmy were to grow significantly and become a place where people could organize and communicate without being subject to corporate control or censorship, that could potentially do a great deal of good for people IRL. But constantly whining Nazi this, Nazi that is preventing that growth from happening.

[–] wax@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Same. Considered getting a domain for my email, but ended up just switching directly to the protonmail domain. Regretting that now.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Getting your own domain is the best thing you can do, regardless of provider - it means they can't lock you in anymore.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did some more research and this is no joke:

https://www.ibtimes.com/tech-ceos-europe-call-europe-first-mentality-following-trumps-us-first-advocacy-3751551

Globalism is bad, being fair is bad, Europe-first, huh I wonder where we've heard this kind of rhetoric before.

[–] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ar eyou saying Proton's CEO is a Nazi? Far as I can tell he isn't

Edit: your message is confusing which is why I ask

[–] TsarVul@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I migrated literally everything from Gmail around 2021. Gotta tell ya, I feel just about dumb as shit right now. I kind of understand people with those "I bought this before he sieg heiled" bumper stickers on their Teslas.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was planning to transition everything to proton this month. Now I don't know what to do.

Tuta for mail, bitwarden for passwords, mullvad for vpn. You lose port forwarding.

I migrated last week. I dont miss proton.

[–] TsarVul@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly the lesson I took away from this is to not vendor-lock myself if I can help it. Maybe it'd be better to have a domain through which you can route incoming emails to any inbox? That way you can just hotswap email services if their CEO turns out to be a cannibal or something.

[–] rosahaj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, I myself was already getting a little uncomfortable with how far proton was branching out. It's a good thing that I was already making a transition to using my own domain using aliases through eforw.com

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or I guess just self host an email server

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That actually doesn't work. Most large email providers will put you into the spam folder unless you are a well known server. Microsoft doesn't even bother with that and outright throws the emails away entirely. Plus, most ISPs block sending emails from residential IPs and cloud providers block sending them from cloud.

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was considering signing up, any alternatives?

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went with mailbox.org for mail, contacts, calendar. Keepass+syncthing for passwords. Still looking for VPN and file storage. I've been trying out nextcloud but there is a learning curve to host your own.