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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
  4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
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Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

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There's a post about it.

That post explicitly says it's not a place for debate or participation from users of other instances.

I'd like to respect that but I think events like this need debate and discussion because it helps to develop and evolve the culture of lemmy and the fediverse in general.

The post says:

This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just a sense check here, are you asserting that Ada is a PTB for defederating from feddit.uk after their admins failed to take action?

Blajah Zone is specifically run as a safe space for trans folks, so it's an emphatic YDI to feddit.uk from me.

Given that the UK Supreme Court recently ruled that the legal definition of a woman in the UK is based on biological sex, and the supposedly Labour PM Starmer is running with it (wtf Starmer???), it's not surprising to me that TERFs and their supporters are coming out of the woodwork on feddit.uk.

Fuck TERFs and fuck Starmer for jumping on Trump's anti-DEI bandwagon just to pander to transphobic voters.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm not asserting anything. My motivation was exactly what it says in the opening post. I think discussion about these things is important.

Sadly it seems I've made a mistake and that this sub might have been the wrong place to post. I didn't realise this community did PTB / YDI style determinations and yes, I failed to read the side bar prior to posting.

Unfortunately it seems like there is some actual discussion happening so it feels wrong to just delete the post at this point. I was going to report my own post but it seems that's not possible?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, if you were just looking to report the news, the comm blaze pointed out might better. For the popcorn takes !fediverselore@lemmy.ca might be more appropriate.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

OP seems pretty neutral and this is just a "here's what's going on in lemmy moderation/administration".

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[–] sixty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I find it absolutely crazy that they de-federated over 1 user, when a block would suffice.

I don't agree with transphobia (of course), but Blåhaj can't demand that their rules be enforced in other instances.

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's why I chose blahaj zone as my instance. It's nice not having to justify my existence

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Ada’s modding may be seen as heavy-handed by some, but that’s largely because it’s a reaction to the fact basically nowhere is safe for people who are trans. Maintaining a truly trans-inclusive space requires active heavy-handed moderation, because going easy or remaining passive just leads to transphobes sneaking in.

She should go harder.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

That's crazy. I mean it's their instance and I don't think it was out of the realm for blahaj to do but over the post of one guy is crazy.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

Think I blocked most of their communities anyway... Most of them seemed to be trans memes I had no interest in.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

PTB

Blahj is a problem instance.

The important distinction here is that they're not simply trying to moderate their communities. They're free to moderate their communities for their users. They want to push their rules on other instances.

They're not free to dictate to the greater social media space the acceptable policies on discourse. Their admins are constantly trying to enforce their ban lists on other servers and communities (or else, you see what happened to feddit.uk).

To see this, go make a new account and get banned from Blahj (you don't even have to post in their communities, see my PTB post as an example) and you'll see that 40+ other completely unrelated communities will also automatically ban you. This is the result of their backroom bullying and toxic behavior towards other admins/mods.

It's easier for an admin or moderator to simply accept their bans than to deal with admins who will take extreme measures, like defederate your entire instance (and lobby others to defederate you) if you don't accept their dictates.


If their goal is to create an instance with communities for trans people then banning users from their communities would serve their goals.

But, that isn't what they're trying to do. This isn't about creating a safe space, they have all of the tools that they need to make Blahj safe. Blahj users in Blahj communities could have been protected from this problem user by the user being banned.

There's no need to contact the admins of other instances to ban a user from your instance or from your communities. Trying to bully other instances or communities isn't required and it is incredibly toxic. Even the moderator here, in this community, has received pressure from Blahj admins about suppressing topics related to Blahj.

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

Ada‘s post contains no details or reasoning. Linking to the offending content would make this appear more deliberate.

The offending content was apparently this.

A woman is an adult female. A transwoman is an adult female who used to be male. It’s not difficult to grasp that they are different things. You can admit that and still believe that transwomen should be treated with dignity like anyone else.

Personally I don’t give a shit what bathroom people use or what they want to be referred to. I’ll go along with whatever… But a woman and a transwoman are different things, and it’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Always have been different things and always will be, no matter what the law states, now or in the future.

Kier’s words are still not transphobia. There is no fear, dislike, prejudice, discrimination, harassment, or violence in his statement. The scream of ‘transphobia’ is thrown around too much for anyone who disagrees with a narrow definition. Any disagreement is labelled as hate, and it’s silly.

Should a transwoman have the same rights and respect and opportunity as a woman (as per the legal definition)? Absolutely. Are they the same? No, they are not. Is that a hateful bigoted viewpoint worthy of scorn? I don’t believe so.

I don’t use the term cis. I use the term woman and you knew exactly what I meant. A blonde woman is a description of a woman’s hair colour and is a semantic-based response that is nothing to do with this point. You know this; it’s a foolish riposte that’s nothing at all to do with the clear and simple fact that a woman who used to be a man is not the same thing as a (cis) woman.

I can call it a woman who used to have a penis or a woman who used to be a man if you want me to be pedantic about it. Nothing to do with hair colour, or skin colour, or anything else except previously being a biological male and now identifying as a woman.

‘adult human female’ is not a dog whistle. It’s a legal and common-sense definition that you clearly understand but are trying to make out to be hate for some reason. I am not denying the legitimacy of transwomen; nor is Keir.

Transwomen and (cis) women are different things. And Transmen and (cis) men are different things. They have different names, which you yourself use for a reason. That reason being they are not the same thing. This is exactly the same as saying transwomen are not women, because they are not. They are transwomen.

It’s pretty simple.

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Blahaj.zone can do whatever they want, but to try and imply that the admins of feddit.uk (and users) are transphobic over this text is madness.

Respect to feddit.uk admins for not bowing to down to bullying.

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[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Wtf, this isn't hate. This is someone stating their perspective with no harmful intent. If anything that comment is a great starter to a serious discussion on the topic.

If Ada doesn't want such content on their instance they have the right to defederade and I fully support their right to it, no matter the reason (it is their instance after all).

I can understand why someone would disagree with that comment, but calling it transphobia or hate speech?

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] FancyPantsFIRE@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They chimed in elsewhere, sounds like they want consensus amongst the admin group and they are worried about the recent (frankly transphobic) UK Supreme Court ruling. They also expressed understanding that blahaj wanted to move faster and defederate.

Edit: Source I was referencing. Not advocating for or against, but there at least appears to be a bit more nuance than straight up support of or apathy about transphobia.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure there is any nuance there.

Rule 1 for feddit.uk is explicitly against transphobia. The comment was transphobic and against the rules and should have been removed.

The UK Supreme Court ruling is, as you said, blatantly transphobic.

So they have two options:

  • Adhere to their own rules
  • Drop rule #1 and be OK with transphobic comments.

Regardless of the excuse (and I will not call it "reason", because it is just an excuse at best IMO) the only option for blahaj would be to defederate. Feddit.uk has, in their lack of moderation of transphobic comments, chosen option 2.

At present, feddit.uk is totally cool with transphobia.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Defederating an entire instance over the actions of a single user instead of simply banning that user along with creating a post to bring it up but not actually discuss it is just the kind of extreme reaction I expect from Ada.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like this community serves a great purpose. And I'm a massive fan of drinking my tea and reading all the drama it attracts. But I am just beyond tired of the same handful of commenters popping up to always agree with whoever is opposed to blahaj.

I give this one a YDI. Anybody posting anything transphobic who gets caught by Ada is gonna be banned. Any instance with a mod or admin who makes transphobic posts or comments will get defederated. No one is entitled to having their content served on Ada's servers, and the people who join blahaj know that, and seem to appreciate it.

Which is sort of why I always wind up agreeing with her. Her server has clear, concise beliefs, and clear, concise administration, and she has the clear-throated consent of her governed or they would leave.

The only server whose vibe I appreciate more is divide by zero. Shout-out to what I feel is the most neurospicy, nonconformist bunch of pirates I ever met.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Good decision by Ada. I'm also quite pleased with how many instance mates stood up in here to defend blahaj's decision.

PS: It occurs to me we might need a name for our peeps. I.e. like one talks about "lemmings" or "redditors", we could use something for members of the divisions by zero. Edit

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago
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