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Without a doubt this is the worst part. It was an immediate and irreversible swing from being an optimist who believes in the good of people to the complete opposite. I now believe humanity is fundamentally flawed and will destroy itself.
Watched too much Star Trek as a kid I guess.
I once proudly said "when the internet is cheap and easy, everyone will have full access to all information and it will be effortlessly easy for people to stop believing falsehoods and it'll start a swing towards reason!"
I just want to hug teenage me.
They were always here.
I escaped from the south to the coasts, but I always tried to warn people how vile the worst of us were.
Nobody coukd believe it, but remember, Hitler wrote about the south as the model for Germany in mein kampf, and the nazis copied the Nuremberg Laws from Jim crow almost verbatim.
They also took inspiration from the Catholic Church and the inquisition. The Church did ethnic cleansing long before the Nazis.
Nazi legal theorists saw the U.S. as a “pioneer” in racist legislation.
James Q. Whitman, in his book "Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law",
It didn't take Trump to make this real for me.
I remember how our country treated Muslims after 9/11. I remember how we treated people with AIDS and HIV when I was little. Right now I'm watching Nazi salutes on national TV and no one's getting punched even though the room is packed with the supposed opposition, and the people who consider themselves progressive are unironically enjoying people's families inability to afford food staples.
Yeah, the aftermath of 9/11 was shocking to me as well and, in many cases, deplorable. The use of the terms "sand n-word" and things like "rag-head" were flying around all over (at least in my part of Ohio), Sikhs and others were getting targeted by racists, and the whole thing was such a surreal time.
The small town I grew up in did have a fair amount of anti-semitism (uncool things were referred to by some as "that's Jewish") and I'm sure I heard slurs around that as well. I didn't expect the big, farther-left cities to descend into that.
Progressives are becoming more radical as a response to right wing extremism.
I was raised republican and was completely caught up in their propaganda. During that time I would've let you starve to death while holding food if I was told you were part of the 'bad' group. You need to treat Republicans as the dangerous entity they are, don't bother being empathetic, they won't ever reciprocate.
don’t bother being empathetic, they won’t ever reciprocate.
If your statement is true, then you are evidence that we need to at least leave the door open to allow people who come to their senses a path to redemption.
The 'progressives' who voted Democrat remind me of abusers who punched their SO in the face and then got angry that they broke their hand.
For four years the vast majority of voters got poorer. Then, they ran Biden knowing his brain wasn't working and when he embarrassed them, they crowned a weak candidate who looked at all of these poorer people and said she'd change absolutely nothing. Even worse, she told them to be joyful about it. Just absolute political stupidity.
Trump did not broaden his coalition on extremism. He broadened it on Democrats' political priority to give more money to the rich at the expense of the poor. It's just stupid politically to be seen rooting for people's misery, because those votes are ripe for the picking thanks to Trump's unilateral wrecking of the economy.
The message shouldn't be: "Your vote was stupid and we hate you." It should be: "Hey, there's an election next year, and if you vote for us we'll fucking stop this shit." (Granted, that's hard to believe watching Schumer and co do nothing, but that's still the message they need to run with.
Yes, and I'm disgusted by people who threw their vote away or refused to vote blue over genocide despite the fact that things were clearly going to get worse under Trump. We've had this argument before and I'm not going to waste my time on it again.
I grew up in these toxic conservative cultures. It became very clear to me at a young age that there was something deeply wrong with them. I've heard exactly what they talk about when they only think that the people in their fucked up tribes are listening.
These aren't potential allies to reach out to. They are enemies to overcome.
Maybe Reagan shouldn't have closed down the mental institutes and facilitate the stifling of access to mental health
Libs blaming mental health? Fashy as usual. Anything to avoid blaming themselves/dems.
There's plenty of blame to go around, but this is a stone cold stupid take.
Looking back, I'm starting to believe it was a long-term political calculus, not just abandoning the most vulnerable in our society...
the kind of people who dont give the least bit of fuck about pretty horrible things until it happens to them after which they love to play the victim
Face flag looks like a fun bar guy though. Maybe he's just stupid?
"Basket of Deplorables" -- as I'm tired of repeating, Hilary was right.
She was. She was John the Baptist but wanted to be Jesus. Opinion on her was fully established so even if she was 45% positive you could never move the dial on the 6% you needed to push her over the top.
She would have been an outstanding attack dog for a fresh candidate if she could have put her ego aside and accept that it wouldn't be her.
She was trying to follow eight years of Obama that had primed an electorate for a radical change candidate. She was not going to be that and in fact personified that her Party would unfortunately not be the one to change.
She was also a terrible candidate in the same way Kamala was, which is something people still don’t accept. They both had terrible PR and were establishment pro-corporate candidates. Those two features guaranteed they wouldn’t extend past their base. At the time Bernie was offering a populist agenda, which is what Trump used to win both times. The DNC still to this day cannot shed corporate influence enough to do what’s necessary to win.
This is it. I never got it until I read this. Obama was a work horse president. He actually overcame the conservative ratchet system and turned the dial towards liberal. He made the ACA and it was overall decent, even Conservatives liked it. They hate Obamacare if you mention it and want it destroyed, but will not want anything to happen to the ACA.
Hillary just didn't bring this vibe. I believe she was just a republican in democrat skin that was being put forward. Kamala gave me that same vibe.
We need to hear some batshit crazy stuff. The next democratic president needs break rules using executive orders just like Trump did. Abolish Citizens United and then arrest any judge that dares rule against the order, all the way up to the SCOTUS ... it seems the president has this authority now.
arrest any judge that dares rule against the order, all the way up to the SCOTUS ... it seems the president has this authority now.
Just because the other side is doing this, this is not where we want to be as a country. The country would devolve into non-existence if both sides were acting as lawlessly as Republicans are now. What needs to happen is they need to face real consequences for breaking our democracy as much as they have been.
She said she'd have a map room to fight climate change. She declared fucking war on climate change. You know that big existential issue that all the leftists say they care about and would surely turn out for, right?
No, she wasn't.
If they hadn't rigged the primary for her, we never would have had a Trump.
The guy with the Trump tatoo looks like the typical guy who gets a 23&ME saying he's actually part Mexican.
THAT has been the most demoralizing part
That half of my fellow Americans willingly embraced Nazi Fascism
I'll never recover, personally. The way my world-view was shattered by how many not just nameless strangers, but people I actually know and interact with, are the worst sort of hateful monsters.
My world is a different place now, and I don't think I'll ever feel the same.
It's stupidity and immaturity more than maliciousness, at least in the case of the US lumpen. The results might be more or less the same but the reframing helps with living in this world and believing in people's 'well-meaning nature'.
Dang, looks like that one guy on the left got a “TRUMP” tat on his NECK. I’m sure he won’t have any ragrets down the road.
He's obviously not getting another turn with the communal brain cell so I don't think he'll be regretting anything.
I think it's about time that the progressives start pandering to the dumbass class. Promising to do all sorts of dumbass and unconstitutional things and then supporting actual progressive policy when they get into office.
If this worked for the current Manchurian dumbass candidate - progressives can surely get their deception game in order.
Wouldn’t work.
That is unless they go all in and start carrying crosses around and talking about Jesus nonstop and somehow convince those folks that their opposition are all secret Satanists.
Makes my stomach hurt.
When I examine my German family tree, this is the kind of shit they fell for too. The only difference, the USA had a healthy economy before Jan 2025, while Germany was a wreck.
The US were exporting dollars. That's not healthy.
I think it's a different kind of unhealthy economy.
