I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I'm that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I'm a vegan.
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Have you considered CrossFit?
Maybe they cook only with an air fryer.
Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn't matter what you run, just don't run Windows 11.
windows 11 isn' all bad. It made my mother ask me to install linux on her computer.
No one outside of tech communities does that
Even the people I know that are otherwise relatively tech savvy don't do this.
Not to say it's a good operating system, though.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
And the joke works with 8 and 10 both being shitty, because they skipped 9, which would have been the good one.
They really should have gone with Windows Nine, to bring the naming scheme in line with Xbox One while also avoiding the startswith.('Windows 9') issue
I literally can't install Windows 11 on my current computer lol. I know there are workarounds for it but I don't feel comfortable doing that for my primary computer.
More windows hate circlejerk.
Just upgraded to windows 11 and really like it. What's so shit about it?
"We like the clean design and improved performance of Microsoft's latest operating system, but it still suffers from its fair share of issues. Here's what people gripe about the most."
And they don't even mention the ads or that Recall garbage ~~thing that takes screenshots~~ being forced on you even though the public made it obvious they don't want that. That and all the telemetry; it's pretty much spyware disguised as an operating system.
I'm sure there are more things but those are just the ones off the top of my head.
*Edit: I remembered the name of Recall
*Edit: I remembered the name of Recall
You could say you ... recalled it π
Most of those are tiny gripes, and to be honest I don't care at all about most of them. The OS looks nice, runs well, and is pretty painless. That's all I want in an OS.
Doesn't let you just do whatever you want. I turned off the windows firewall in windows 7 and went on with my life. Windows 11 wouldn't let me download updates with the firewall off.
Hey, whats so bad about w11?
Obsoleting a lot of relatively recent fast hardware means people are either faced with a fuck off or complicated work arounds. Then there is forcing people to log in with their MS email account which they may not have or want or again forcing people into complicated work arounds. The implicit privacy issues of recall if it was rolled out as planned.
Ads in the windows UI both exiting and planned. The fact that they have discussed the idea of making Windows a monthly/annual fee.
Then the carry overs from 10 The fact that the start menu search is less useful than any linux DE or windows XP Re-enabling crap that people disabled on purpose Certain kinds of links opening in Edge even if people use chrome
Wait i have w11 in my laptop... i dont have a windows account sign in. Is that a forthcoming change?
Ads are fucked, thats fucked.
But it mainly seems like microsoft policy, not necessarily w11 itself is the issue?
I ignorantly think a monthly subscription would never happen and we'd see mass linux adoption.
I have a dual boot in my near term plans for my desktop. I would pull that trigger immediately if ads or subscriptions materialized.
Ads are...already a thing. Shit like putting candy crush which allows you to spend real money to pay to win. Search suggestions in the start menu. The app store is an attempt at an Apple style money grab except the money grab only exists on the apple side because its the only way to get apps on the machine and MS never got much out its store in comparison.
Ads and subscriptions would already have happened if they had succeeded in using secure boot to lock machines out of alternative OS
No... I've literally only seen this on Lemmy. I've never once encountered anyone in real life that does this.
Edit: and to add, people really don't like this. I love Linux, but hate this community at this point. It's disingenuous and I see blatant lies all the time about where I'm going to see ads in windows. I've yet to see any ads at all so far.
This is hardly a blatant lie.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/get-rid-of-ads-in-your-windows-10-start-menu/ This is from 2015
https://www.cnet.com/tech/who-wants-ads-in-their-windows-11-start-menu-heres-how-to-turn-them-off/ and now
The fact that you haven't noticed this doesn't mean its made up
It is interesting but people have different thresholds for what they consider βadsβ
I know Ubuntu took some flak for offering their system β was it Ubuntu Pro? β at their login screen. Thatβs fine with me, but bothers others.
Ubuntu again did it with some music store app in their app search results.
Meanwhile Windows has stuffed Candy Crush, Office, and many others in the start menu over the years. And sometimes itβs not Microsoft but OEMs doing this.
But is crapware βadvertisingβ? Im not sure but it seems like perceptions have shifted at the same time as Microsoft specifically has pushed more and more intrusive ads, and those have moved further to the βadvertisingβ side of that line between suggestion and spam.
My workplace has this common braindead policy where we have to change our passwords every 3 months. So every time I change it, Microsoft page asks me, βHOW WAS IT?β
Like it wasn't annoying enough.
I've been bombarded with Shit about Linux ever since I signed up here.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE CRAZE BEHIND THIS DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM?!!! I just dont fukin get it! Whats so special about itππ
Think about why you joined Lemmy. Reddit has been getting greedier and greedier, so you left to a place where the grass is greener. The same thing is true with Windows and Linux (and Linux is also much more big and mature than Lemmy). It attracts the same kind of people.
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Windows is a privacy nightmare. The OS is constantly sending data to Microsoft while being used.
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Windows hogs resources. If you don't shovel money out for new hardware every few years, your computer will run like shit.
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Windows is full of ads.
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The majority of malware is written for Windows. Not really a selling point for me, but it's a bonus.
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Linux is free.
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Linux doesn't force updates. You update when you want to, and it takes less than a minute to do.
Oooh... okey, noice noice....
How similar is the interface to windows?? Im mostly interested in how customizable it is. if theres more customization features (I lake to change the colors n fonts of stuff and all my themes are an eyesore on purpose uwu) then im sold.
Also the amount of fucking data lost on games/programa cus of forced updates....
There is no single desktop environment on linux. Your customization begins with choosing your desktop environment/window manager.
To get a feeling for the things people like to do, you could take a look at !unixporn@lemmy.ml or !unixporn@lemmy.world
ok it looks cool but all that code looks hella fuckin scary(ο½₯β ο½₯;)
Do I gotta learn to code ALL THAT??? Do I even need to learn whatever tf that code stuff is to even change the settings/wallpaper??! Oh god now I know how Apple users feel when I ramble off about Android lets me Sideload apps that aren't in the app store....
Im hoping to god I dont even have to touch whatever all that block of text is just to personalize my system
Lemmy generally attracts the same kind of person that would also use Linux. Both of them are open source and community driven alternatives to software otherwise provided by large corporations and milked for every last cent. Both of them require just a bit more knowledge in order to comfortably use them. Linux with all the distro's and desktop environments, Lemmy with all the instances and apps/front-ends. We're very much a bubble here.
There are political, practical and aesthetic reasons to choose GNU/Linux as an operating system.
Political Reasons
The Linux kernel, various components from GNU, a large part of the software library etc. are released under Copyleft licenses such as the GNU Public License (GPL), which cannot be revoked. This prevents a lot of evil shit the corporate world likes to do with software. It also menas it can't be taken away; My license to copy, examine, modify and redistribute the Linux source code is irrevocable.
The kernel and much of what goes into a Linux OS these days are largely developed by larger corporations (Red Hat is now owned by IBM) but a lot of the app ecosystem is community driven. A lot of applications in the Linux ecosystem exist because someone wanted the tool to exist, not because someone begrudgingly accomplished something to increase shareholder value.
Practical Reasons
The vast majority of Linux distros are provided free of charge.
The majority of Linux distros are lighter on system resources than Windows; Windows' system requirements have forced a lot of perfectly functional hardware into retirement where they run just fine with Linux.
With a few notable exceptions the Linux ecosystem is free of the ads and spyware built into Windows these days.
Microsoft has a habit of rearranging their UI kind of for the hell of it, meaning constant retraining for users. In the Linux ecosystem, only Gnome is in the habit of making drastic unasked for design changes, and it's very much not a user's only choice.
Microsoft has a lot of monetary incentives to be user hostile. Not a lot of people use the Microsoft Store to search for software because much of the software the userbase wants competes with a Microsoft product, so they aren't found in the store. For example, Edge is the only web browser found in the Microsoft Store. Microsoft will not distribute a product that competes with one of their own. A typical package manager on Linux is full of actual useful software and is the preferred way of managing software on Linux. In fact, Windows is basically the only platform that hasn't managed to make a package manager or app store the default way of handling software.
Microsoft has been eroding the end user's ability to control or even own their devices. Linux does not become unusable for several minutes due to updates the way Windows does. Linux doesn't routinely take away features the way Windows has been doing lately.
Aesthetic Reasons
Windows is becoming less customizable as time goes on. Linux is only getting more impressive. It's not difficult to make the experience YOU want on Linux. Windows doesn't let you put the Taskbar on the side of the screen anymore. Get a load of this, I'm using Fedora KDE right now. By default there's a thing that works very much like the Start button on Windows; icon in the lower-left corner that pops up a menu from which to launch applications. I can right click that, click "Show Alternatives" and I can have a full screen thing similar to the MacOS launcher, a smaller cascading menu type thing that works like the Windows 85 Start menu, or by default a two-pane thing that's more typical of Linux systems. It's just so much more flexible.
Windows user:
*Complaining about ads on their desktop
Me, a linux enjoyer:
*inhales*
Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.
Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren't for normal people.
I use EndeavorOS which draws from Arch repositories including AUR. I've never once had to manually add a repository.
Not knocking you but there is also a reason the "I use Arch memes" exist.
Because we want everyone to know how SUPERIOR arch (and derivates distro) is so they can get in the fun? π /j
I would always start all conversations with my friends with "Hey Windows peasants!" If I had any friends. These two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
I would recommend this though https://mspoweruser.com/windows-12-lite-is-here-and-it-doesnt-have-any-built-in-ads/
are those real? I don't believe anyone ever said "it's like linux but it works."
it does work though, on windows i can see ads and intrusive crap all the time. Linux distros don't bother you at all, it's like linux is not even trying at this point.
This makes me want to make a Linux addon just for ads
Like make it entirely transparent Download this is you miss having ads lol
I swear Linux users are borderline jehovah's witnesses going door to door
hey!... We're clearly tech vegans
Isn't cruelty against animals - specifically one self - a key part of the Linux learning journey?
Cruelty to oneself is part of the Arch journey.
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