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  • In December, an investigation by Tom's Hardware found that Recall frequently captured sensitive information in its screenshots, including credit card numbers and Social Security numbers — even though its "filter sensitive information" setting was supposed to prevent that from happening.
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[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

They say you can disable Recall by keep pornhub videos running in foreground.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sorry, boss, but this girl-on-girl playlist is to protect our sensitive data from Microsoft

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have Frozen running in the foreground. I'm half tempted to install Windows on a VM and just have Frozen running on a loop.

Make Disney and Microsoft fight it out in court.

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[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You can also disable Recall by using a Linux distro

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[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the highest-quality, shocked Pikachu I've ever seen.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Moral blackmail and shaming will be the new industries of the future!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Well at least there are all kinds of checks and balances to prevent big tech and the US Government from abusing this information, right? Thank goodness we have no reason to worry about it being used for political surveillance and identifying who to send to foreign concentration camps, or anything like that.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

to vast majority of people this is unthinkable. They will also likely just not even notice news like this because they dont pay attention to such things and likely dont even care about their personal info until something bad happens to them because of that.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

Stealing this info and posting it publicly is an important way to fight back. Once prole hear their credit card is being defrauded because of recall it will be untenable for it to stay

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Makes sense why they want this technology so much, one thing has really been achieved - in year 2005 you couldn't make a program that would be a keylogger and a useful thing all in one, so you had to make a keylogger somehow detect those rare events one can risk it running, or something like that. You couldn't instruct it in English "send me his private messages on sites like Facebook", you had to be specific and solve problems. Now you can. And these "AI"'s are usually one program with generic purpose. To stuff everything together with kinda useful things.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Just a tip: if you must use consumer editions of Windows regularly, consider adding an automatic provisioning tool like AME to your workflow.

The example above uses customizable “playbooks” to provision a system the way docker compose would a container image, so it can fill the role of a VM snapshot or PXE in non-virtualized local-only scenarios.

The most popular playbooks strip out AI components and services (there are many more than just Recall) but also disable all telemetry and cloud-based features, replace MS bloatware with preferred OSS, curtail a truckload of annoying Windows behaviors, setup more sensible group policies than the defaults, and so forth.

I have a few custom playbooks for recurring use cases so that, when one presents, I can spin up an instance quickly without the usual hassle and risk.

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

This looks like useful stuff; thanks for sharing. I'm not on Windows myself any more, but this looks like info with passing on to those in my life who are.

[–] JTheFox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is really interesting! I’ve usually installed Winaero Tweaker back when I still used Windows, if I knew this existed I probably would’ve gone with this instead. Having access to “playbooks” would be quite handy.

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

/give lemmy_gold

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You for sure feels so good being this helpful. But TIN really don't understand SHT if you use so many Technical terms(TT)

But there's a solution in brackets I just presented, that's commonly accepted in academia if you still want to use TT like that

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Forgive me for not explaining better. Here are the terms potentially needing explanation.

  • Provisioning in this case is initial system setup, the kind of stuff you would do manually after a fresh install, but usually implies a regimented and repeatable process.
  • Virtual Machine (VM) snapshots are like a save state in a game, and are often used to reset a virtual machine to a particular known-working condition.
  • Preboot Execution Environment (PXE, aka ‘network boot’) is a network adapter feature that lets you boot a physical machine from a hosted network image rather than the usual installation on locally attached storage. It’s probably tucked away in your BIOS settings, but many computers have the feature since it’s a common requirement in commercial deployments. As with the VM snapshot described above, a PXE image is typically a known-working state that resets on each boot.
  • Non-virtualized means not using hardware virtualization, and I meant specifically not running inside a virtual machine.
  • Local-only means without a network or just not booting from a network-hosted image.
  • Telemetry refers to data collecting functionality. Most software has it. Windows has a lot. Telemetry isn’t necessarily bad since it can, for example, help reveal and resolve bugs and usability problems, but it is easily (and has often been) abused by data-hungry corporations like MS, so disabling it is an advisable precaution.
  • MS = Microsoft
  • OSS = Open Source Software
  • Group policies are administrative settings in Windows that control standards (for stuff like security, power management, licensing, file system and settings access, etc.) for user groups on a machine or network. Most users stick with the defaults but you can edit these yourself for a greater degree of control.
  • Docker lets you run software inside “containers” to isolate them from the rest of the environment, exposing and/or virtualizing just the resources they need to run, and Compose is a related tool for defining one or more of these containers, how they interact, etc. To my knowledge there is no one-to-one equivalent for Windows.

Obviously, many of these concepts relate to IT work, as are the use-cases I had in mind, but the software is simple enough for the average user if you just pick one of the premade playbooks. (The Atlas playbook is popular among gamers, for example.)

Edit: added explanations for docker and telemetry

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

consider adding an automatic provisioning tool like AME to your workflow.

The example above uses customizable “playbooks” to provision a system the way docker compose would a container image, so it can fill the role of a VM snapshot or PXE in non-virtualized local-only scenarios.

I know what most of these words mean individually

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically, a playbook is a set of instructions or baselines for how you want the system to look/be setup, and the provisioning tool will engage in however many tasks are required to configure the system to your specifications. I played around with something similar with PowerShell DSC, and its pretty cool to be able to eliminate config drift when it checks against the config and remediates any changes that weren't updated in the playbook.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How is this possibly going to be tolerated in business environments?

[–] martinb@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They pay more for it not being switched on... Or it doesn't call out to home

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I would guess my company absolutely wants it, but wants the I fo sent only to them.

In fact if they didn't already have something like this installed on our PCs I'd be floored.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"pay us money to not do something" sounds like some mob shit

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My company is still on Windows 10 LT or whatever.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

So, pay more it is.

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[–] Broken_Washer@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is top tier comedy: Microsoft won the PC war to be benevolent and give it to Linux. How kind of them to shoot themselves in the foot for the good of mankind.

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[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't understand why Lemmy is so obsessed with Recall. It only works if you have an ARM CPU with an NPU. Nearly every Windows user is on an x86-64 chip.

Yes I agree that it shouldn't exist in Windows at all, but everyone is complaining about a feature that less than 1% of users even have access to; the amount of people who opt into using is going to be even smaller.

Stop obsessing over it so much and find something different to hate on Microsoft over. God knows there's plenty of other reasons to dislike them. Seriously, it's so annoying. I'm about to set a filter for the word "recall".

[–] equivocal@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It only works if you have an ARM CPU with an NPU.

No, it works on x86-64 assuming the device has a sufficient NPU. Both AMD and Intel CPUs latest CPUs list the Recall preview as available now.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First they came for the ARM CPU users type mentality

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

*sigh* you're not wrong but the constant posts are annoying.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not to mention it’s optional, entirely on device, and secure.

Let’s be honest, most of Lemmy users complaining about it are on Linux or a Chromebook anyway. They can’t use it even if they wanted to.

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Dragod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well, if they say it's secure, it must be secure!

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

That AI is going to be copying a lot of "I put on my robe and wizard hat"

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