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[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The goal of the anti-LGBT relious nuts is to force people into straight marriages because that's all that matters to religious zealots.

They know that if kids practice safe sex they won't get pregnant and 'shot gun marriage' rates will go down.

They know that if kids discover their gender or sexual identity is non-cis, non-het, or non-monogamous that they might not wind up having a traditional marriage.

The know that people who only have 1 partner in their lifetime are much, much less likely to successfully leave an abusive partner, meaning there's a higher rate of divorce if people learn that having multiple partners in your life is normal and okay.

They know that kids who are educated about healthy sex and consent in relationships are less likely to go along with a child marriage or an assigned marriage.

They know that removing sex ed means more teen pregnancy, more intimate partner abuse, and more child-rape. For religious people whose only goal is to get young women into marriages, those are good things.

Example: An actual elected official in the state of Missouri defending his stance that "Parents Rights" includes the ability to marry off their kids to adults at age 12, because "Do you know any kids that have been married at age 12, I do, and guess what, they're still married". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6UJ-uCrgc

These people legitimately believe that it's morally correct to kidnap a 12 year old girl and force her to be entirely subserviant to, and dependent on, some pedophile husband who controls everything they do, because them being trapped in that awful situation means that there's one more marriage in the world.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My parents were pretty open talking about sex and positive and it. They wouldn't let us watch too violent movies as kids, but movies with nudity were ok after we were like 12. I saw Blow-up before I saw Alien haha.

I think that's a big part of why Americans treat sex as a weapon and shame it, they teach you young that it's literally less socially acceptable than murder.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't really disagree with this. Sex and sexuality are integral parts of life and as such should be viewed as just another topic for being openly talked and taught. Perhaps if such approach came to be, maybe it would cause a shift towards true liberation.

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sex is such a minuscule part of the majority of peoples lives. Technically "ideally" everybody would only need to have sex 1-2 times (i.e have 2 kids or more) throughout their entire lives to keep our species going.
Most people shit themselves more often than that and there's no talk about normalizing that.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

This is a very weird thing to say. Have you considered that maybe it's only not important to you? Because it sure seems important to everyone else. Maybe you are asexual or something, which is totally fine, but it doesn't mean everyone else is.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think you might be asexual friend. That’s entirely okay, but you are on end of the spectrum. Some of us have an “ideal” of 1-2 times per day.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Omg i love this and stealing this from you!

[–] Sarcophagus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet this self satisfied intellectual stance on sex happens to be a huge fucking turn off

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's very clearly tongue in cheek

[–] Sarcophagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry being a kill joy is my kink

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lots of fluid transfer involved. also humor. science helps. intellectuals can be hot too, it's not just a slur.

[–] Sarcophagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I get my rocks off by mildly annoying internet denizens so no hard feelings

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The foundation of sex is consent. If consent (including hearing about it and discussing it) is absent, then it is torture.

And I literally mean rape and sexual assault should be considered torture, because they are and they have the same effects on the brain as classic forms of torture, and indeed both SA and rape are used as a form of torture in war. Look at the mass rapes in Ukraine. It's not for sexual gratification, it's to torture people, and they also happen to get off on it.

People have different boundaries around what they discuss, especially personal info. It's important to respect that.

If you want to experience a less inhibited place, I recommend checking out a sex club.

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

People talking about sex is not torture. Get a grip.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The foundation of every activity people do together is consent. That doesn't mean I need the consent of everyone in the room to talk about something.

The second paragraph has my full support, the first one seems weird to me.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, and your sex ed is incomplete if you don't understand this.

No, not every activity is consensual. What consent is, is a deeper question and interaction than what you're making it out to be.

Consent is the foundation of sexual education and sexual interactions.

Freedom of speech is separate, and no, you don't "need the consent of everyone in the room to talk about something," but then you're operating outside of consent, and you may violate emotional boundaries. That includes triggering survivors who may not have expected you to violate social norms and who would have told you, "hey, I don't like talking about sex in front of people because I get panic attacks."

These interactions, being between more than 1 person, require the input of the other people. It's not a great look to force people into accepting sex as you see it or want it.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That includes triggering survivors who may not have expected you to violate social norms and who would have told you, "hey, I don't like talking about sex in front of people because I get panic attacks."

That's true but that's also true for any number of topics. This is a general "how/when do I talk about potentially triggering topics" issue and has nothing to do with sexual consent.

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[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

People that make posts like this clearly don't understand what "normalizing" means. It doesn't mean being blindly accepting of everything that would be the exact opposite of "normalizing". It rather means we as a society decide, what "is regarded as normal" and what "isn't regarded as normal". In that sense sex is already normalized. The overwhelming majority of all people are straight, who also mostly engage in recreational and procreational sex. And this is what is also considered the "norm".

We don't have to go out of our way to find excuses to make specific kinks and fetishes out as "normal", because they will mostly never matter to the average persons life. And it's also widely accepted as normal, that if you want to get "kinky", you do it on your own time, not everybody else's.

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