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Yes, Netenyahus arse was borderline bruised from the tongue "lashing" Biden gave him on a daily basis. And the dems shutting any progressive or muslim voice out of the party, and not allowing anyone of Palestinian descent into the convention was so brave of Biden. A profile of courage.
Thank God people voted against 'Genocide Joe'! Those Palestinian kids must be so grateful!
Bibi stalled because he knew if Trump won he could cleanse both Gaza and the WB.
Which he is, in spite of all the 'progressive rage' that children mutter under their breath.
Bibi stalled because he knew if Trump won he could cleanse both Gaza and the WB.
Implying biden wasn't also allowing that to happen?
I hope you are comforted by all the cheers of the Palestinian kids.
Mission Accomplished, well done.
Which option didn't have genocide continue?
Obviously we were right to enable the option that was literally fascism.
Now at least the Palestinian kids won't suffer alone.
Again, mission, fucking, accomplished.
I'm not sure I understand why you're all just ignoring that Genocide Joe was an avid genocider too here. The OP's point is that there was no party on the ballot that actually opposes genocide, unless you were going to vote Green of course.
Your cognitively-impaired genocider was just as bad as their cognitively-impaired genocider.
Whats funny is to the dnc and Kamalas campaign also didn't seem to care if trump won but everyone is just mad at people pointing out that the usa and Biden were fully in support of Israel genociding Palestinians.
Even now the response to Biden's people saying yeah completely enabled them and didnt do anything to stop them is yelling about trump
Whats funny is to the dnc and Kamalas campaign also didn’t seem to care if trump won
I mean, if believing that drowns out the screams for you at night, sure.
I'm sure those kids are horrified at the decisions made by the DNC, that's probably all they can think of.
There was none.
Dems rig their primaries, so any other presidential candidate had zero chance.
Continuing to give the genocider everything he wanted wasn't going to get him to actually listen to anything you said.
So glad they worked so hard in office to actually prevent the genocide
https://bsky.app/profile/dropsitenews.com/post/3lnvbkrokvk2p
Headline aside, the thread pretty clearly outlines that the US side were doing everything to prevent an actual genocide, even suggesting the neighboring arab states secure the gaza strip temporarily.
The major quotes about genocide being the plan were by the Israeli military veteran and ambassador to the US Michael Herzog, not the US.
No its literally biden doing his best to let it continue
https://bsky.app/profile/dropsitenews.com/post/3lnvbkvojms2p
Further on
10/ ➤ He also revealed there were internal discussions in Washington about Biden giving a speech to pressure Israel politically, possibly triggering new elections there—but Biden backed off.
And
17/ 5. Biden Backed Israel Even After Netanyahu Publicly Undermined & Insulted Him
➤ Biden once told Netanyahu he was “full of shit,” and hung up the phone mid-call. But as Ambassador Tom Nides put it: “Biden saw [Netanyahu] as a manipulator, a magician… But he stood by him through the end.”
The fact that you can type all that and not see the truth of my words is astonishing. I don't pretend the Biden admin approach was good, but he very clearly did not want a genocide.
If he very clearly didn't want a genocide, wouldn't he have taken action that would prevent it (or as much of it as reasonably possible) from continuing instead of just saying "You gotta stop it Jack!"?
They dont seem to accept "actions speak louder than words"
Which parts od ot do you think are positive for biden?
Which parts do you think show he was against the genocide?
He never once promoted or sought any Israel single state solution and was openly speaking with neighboring islamic states about ways to maintain Palestine in some meaningful way. He withheld large bomb shipments that Israel paid for, the intention being to keep them from being used on the raid of Rafah. Biden would spend large amounts of time on the phone with Netanyahu, often swearing and criticizing him. The aid pier distributed millions of pounds of food directly to Gaza Strip, quite the "empty gesture" that other commenters claim.
You all might think that amounts to nothing, but it's a hell of a lot worse now that Biden is gone and Trump is in charge. I place the blame squarely on the criminal Israeli leadership, Netanyahu should have been removed from power when he was tried for corruption several years ago.
He withheld 2000lb bombs but eagerly sent them everything else, even to the point of ignoring our own laws.
Biden would spend large amounts of time on the phone with Netanyahu, often swearing and criticizing him.
And yet gave him everything he wanted and covered for Israel in the un
The aid pier distributed millions of pounds of food directly to Gaza Strip, quite the "empty gesture" that other commenters claim.
That seemingly lasted only long enough to help do a military raid into gaza.
I place the blame squarely on the criminal Israeli leadership, Netanyahu should have been removed from power when he was tried for corruption several years ago.
Agreed. Although notice it didnt do anything to stop Biden from working with such a piece of shit.
"Biden gimme more bombs and bullets to kill more people. Also bring over your army tp shoot down all drones and missiles Iran could send to us."
[1] "Nope, fuck off."
[2] "Sure honey. While we are it, can you also publicly humiliate me? I will also state how i am a great Zionism supporter and i will stay by your side unwaveringly"
Biden actually withheld several shipments of large bombs that Israel paid for, and later Trump bragged about shipping them out.
The fact of the matter is the Biden admin never supported a single state solution or genocide while the Trump admin does and then some.
Your distrust of the Biden admin is exactly what Netanyahu wanted, and it succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams.
Again, it was just optics. The US continued to deliver other bombs and Israel continued to massacre with them.
Also remember the entire "Aid pier" shenanigangs? All this alleged humanitarian tool ended up being used for was as a spearhead for a clandestine military operation hidden in aid trucks.
Reagan ended Israels attacks on Lebanon with a phone call. All Biden had to do was saying: "you dont get shit and we dont cover your ass unless ceasefire and full humanitarian access."
Biden supported genocide. The genocide is committed with US weapons and he kept sending them. He even broke US laws to send them.
Look at actions not at words.
Also remember the entire "Aid pier" shenanigangs? All this alleged humanitarian tool ended up being used for was as a spearhead for a clandestine military operation hidden in aid trucks.
They do, but are saying it is an example of how Biden was trying to help gaza and Palestinians 😑🙃
the thread pretty clearly outlines that the US side were doing everything to prevent an actual genocide,
Because there wasn't an actual genocide in Gaza already? If they were trying to prevent a genocide they were failing miserably.
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group, according to Merriam Webster dictionary. Genocide is the murder of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group, with the aim of destroying that nation or group, according to Oxford.
The fact that we're still talking about Palestine under Trump means it wasn't eradicated under Biden. I'm sure the Israelis always planned for Genocide but I'm sure Biden was working to prevent it.
I'm sure the Israelis always planned for Genocide but I'm sure Biden was working to prevent it.
So the op is about how Biden was not doing anything to prevent it and how he was just letting them do whatever they wanted. Did you actually read any part of it?
Are you just arguing old talking points whenever you see people being critical of how Biden handled the situation?
I know this is a wordy response but you included a full fucking amnesty international article in your reply so if anything mine is much more concise.
The Amnesty International article your shared calls on USA, Germany, UK, and other key EU members to end shipments of arms to Israel. Full stop, that was never going to happen. To remove the largest strategic military position in the region is absolutely not on the table, whether we like it or not that is a fact. All of those nations, to some extent, heavily limited arms deals to Israel after the occupation began, which was good.
Hypothetically, if we did cut off all arms to Israel, then they would be surrounded by very angry adversaries that they have been fighting for almost a century. Israel would just become another slightly different genocide and you would be sitting there explaining it to the next generation the same way the old belligerent honkies are trying to explain it to us now.
The best possible outcome, in my opinion, would have been the USA removing Netanyahu from power by not acknowledging his authority after his previous removal for corruption and forcing a new election to be held in Israel.
The most realistic outcome would be propping up the Israelis, conditionally to the extent that they could lose some land to adversaries if they're not following the rules, and also propping up Palestine starting with the rebuilding of their infrastructure and peacekeeping with foreign troops such that any attack on Palestinians could result in conflict with those nations.
I love you ignored the part of it being a genocide which is why I linked it.
And ignored the part of reading the article about how Biden refused to stop the genocide.
Now your argument is somehow rebuilding Palestinian land and doing peacekeeping, which again was something the us under Biden vetoed at the un
The US also proposed ceasefires to the UN which were also Vetoed by China.
1 which wasn't an actual ceasefire, just a temporary one which Israel could use to rearm, which is why others vetoed it. There was even a vote later to have it turn into a permanent ceasefire but then the usa vetoed that.
The draft does not include provisions supporting ongoing diplomatic efforts to secure a ceasefire - an element of the U.S. resolution.
And
RUSSIA, CHINA OBJECTED TO U.S. RESOLUTION
Russia's ambassador to the U.N., Vassily Nebenzia, said the U.S.-led resolution was "exceedingly politicized" and contained an effective green light for Israel to mount a military operation in Rafah, a city on the southern tip of the Gaza Strip where more than half of the enclave's 2.3 million residents have been sheltering in makeshift tents.
"This would free the hands of Israel and it would result in all of Gaza and its entire population having to face destruction, devastation, or expulsion," Nebenzia told the meeting.
He said a number of non-permanent members of the Security Council had drafted an alternative resolution and said there was no reason for members not to support it.
China's U.N. ambassador, Zhang Jun, criticized the text proposed by the U.S. for not clearly stating its opposition to a planned military operation by Israel in Rafah, which he said could lead to severe consequences. He said Beijing also supported the alternative.
The fact that you can listen to Stromae means that not all people of Tutsi descent are dead. There is no such thing as the Rwandan genocide! I guess since there are still Jewish and Romani people, the Nazi Party were not complicit in genocide either. Clearly not. Jewish and Romani people exist to this day. Some even live in Poland! What genocide? \s
You are a deeply unserious person. There is no chance in hell that you are arguing in good faith. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.
1.9 Million People live in the Gaza Strip, that's 10 digits. Large numbers of them were displaced but still remain in Gaza, somewhere from 6 to 7 digits dead or injured, that leaves 10 digits still in Gaza. The Israelis and Trump's Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth are talking about pushing all of them permanently out of the region, future tense.
The Rwandan Genocide happened, the Gaza Genocide is currently happening. It did not occur under Biden, would not have occurred under Harris.
1.9 Million People live in the Gaza Strip, that's 10 digits. Large numbers of them were displaced but still remain in Gaza, somewhere from 6 to 7 digits dead or injured, that leaves 10 digits still in Gaza
Uh... What? 1.9 is 7 digits, of which there were conservatively estimated to be 6 digits of dead by mid-2024. By the most conservative estimate possible, more than 10% of Gazans were fucking dead by the time your dear Biden left office.
The Israelis and Trump's Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth are talking about pushing all of them permanently out of the region, future tense.
Yeah Biden leaned on Egypt and Jordan to accept exactly the same thing also in mid-2024 and was told to go fuck himself. For now Israel is blocking out all aid, which is the exact same thing it was doing the exact same thing it did at the start of the war under Biden.
I thank you for correcting my zero count, I will do the same for you, 40,000 is only 5. It's been a rough morning for me.
40000 is the number of people directly killed (as in shot or or blown to bits) by the IDF who the Gaza Health Ministry physically counted. That's not an estimate, that's a number you then use to make an estimate, like this one. If you have a study counting indirect deaths and producing a number less than this, then let's see it, because otherwise this is a full six digits.
I didn't use that number, you did. You brought up the mid-2024 conservative estimate.
Agreed.
It always warms my heart to hear how hard it was for Democrats to actually wield power when they had it, especially when Trump is giving a master class on the possibilities. They always, always lean on excuses.
Biden ... Netanyahu ... Saudi
What do people expect with this disgusting collection of genocidal sleaze?
The dangers of trusting a Zionist. Genociding Bibi should never have been given the benefit of the doubt. And in the end, Bibi won by having his favorite outcome on 2024-11-05 realized.
Sadly obvious to everyone but Biden
Benefit of the doubt?
Biden and his people had more than a year to figure it out during war crimes/genocide and all the decades before it.
They wanted this. They were merely occupied with the optics of it. Murdering brown people generally has bipartisan support in the US.
Bibi won by having his favorite outcome on 2024-11-05 realized.
I doubt Bibi cared much either way. I mean Trump likely was preferable to Harris, but even with Harris it's not like he'd have faced real pressure to stop the genocide.
The dangers of trusting a Zionist.
Are you not aware that genocide joe is a huge zionist? In fact the vast majority of zionists are christian. Likewise Saudi Arabia has always been closely allied with zionism. None of these creeps are trustable.
