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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No thanks. I’m perfectly capable of coming up with incorrect answers on my own.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

I think people care.

They care so much they actively avoid them.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I honestly can't think of any practical use case for AI in my day-to-day routine.

ML algorithms are just fancy statistics machines, and to that end, I can see plenty of research and industry applications where large datasets need to be assessed (weather, medicine, ...) with human oversight.

But for me in my day to day?

I don't need a statistics bot making decisions for me at work, because if it was that easy I wouldn't be getting paid to do it.

I don't need a giant calculator telling me when to eat or sleep or what game to play.

I don't need a Roomba with a graphics card automatically replying to my text messages.

Handing over my entire life's data just so a ML algorithm might be able to tell me what that one website I visited 3 years ago that sold kangaroo testicles was isn't a filing system. There's nothing I care about losing enough to go the effort of setting up copilot, but not enough to just, you know, bookmark it, or save it with a clear enough file name.

Long rant, but really, what does copilot actually do for me?

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Our boss all but ordered us to have IT set this shit up on our PCs. So far I've been stalling, but I don't know how long I can keep doing it.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

Tell your boss you talked to legal and they caution that all copilot data is potentially discoverable.

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 53 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Reducing computer performance:

Turbo button 🤝 AI button

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[–] RaptorBenn@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Imagine that, a new fledgingly technology hamfistedly inserted into every part of the user experience, while offering meager functionality in exchange for the most aggressive data privacy invasion ever attempted on this scale, and no one likes it.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even non tech people I talk to know AI is bad because the companies are pushing it so hard. They intuit that if the product was good, they wouldn't be giving it away, much less begging you to use it.

[–] lev@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right - and even if the user is not conscious of this observation, many are subconsciously behaving in accordance with it. Having AI shoved into everything is offputting.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speaking of off-putting, that friggin copilot logo floating around on my Word document is so annoying. And the menu that pops up when I paste text — wtf does "paste with Copilot" even mean?

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Y'all remember when 3D TVs were going to be revolutionary?

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Agent641 @dgerard remember when it was INEVITABLE that the deeds to your house were going to be an NFT?

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[–] drislands@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A friend of mine is a streamer. On his discord, the topic of the Switch 2 came up, and one of his fans stated their desire for it to support 3D TV. Rather than saying my gut reaction -- "are you crazy?" -- I simply asked why. I consider it a great moment of personal self control.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not care. Its want. We don't want AI.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (14 children)

FR I think more people actively dislike it, which is a form of care.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 34 points 1 year ago (15 children)

One of the mistakes they made with AI was introducing it before it was ready (I’m making a generous assumption by suggesting that “ready” is even possible). It will be extremely difficult for any AI product to shake the reputation that AI is half-baked and makes absurd, nonsensical mistakes.

This is a great example of capitalism working against itself. Investors want a return on their investment now, and advertisers/salespeople made unrealistic claims. AI simply isn’t ready for prime time. Now they’ll be fighting a bad reputation for years. Because of the situation tech companies created for themselves, getting users to trust AI will be an uphill battle.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple Intelligence and the first versions of Gemini are the perfect examples of this.

iOS still doesn’t do what was sold in the ads, almost a full year later.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Insert 'Full Self Driving' Here.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Do they care? No! Will they push more AI? Yes! Will they listen to the consumers? I don't think so.
Same thing happens with lot of products over the years. Companies push new stuff that we don't want, and a year later becomes a regular thing! They push AI day by day, from websites AI chat help to in app AI assistant. Do consumers like it? No, but still you gonna find it everywhere! and now they push it in computers and looks what it happens! No sales!

Call me crazy, but at some point, they need to look at their data or their consumers and do the right thing.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's maddening that they did actually take away the headphone jack from all modern phones and there's nothing we can do about it even though it objectively sucks

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But there's no space on the new thin phones.

STFU yes there is. Gimme my 3.5mm.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Microsoft pushing a feature that most users will never use or care about? Never!

Laughs in Window 8 optimized for touchscreens

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[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

That's not fair! I care! A lot!

Just had to buy a new laptop for new place of employment. It took real time, effort, and care, but I've finally found a recent laptop matching my hardware requirements and sense of aesthetics at a reasonable price, without that hideous copilot button :)

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Oh we care alright. We care about keeping it OUT of our FUCKING LIVES.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If I want at AI I have a multitude of options. It's baked into my editors and easily available on the web. I just paste some crap into a text box and we're off to the races.

I don't want it in my OS. I don't want it embedded in my phone. I'll keep disabling it as long as that is an option.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

WTF is an AI computer? Is that some marketing bullshit?

[–] dumblederp@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago

"Y2k ready" vibes.

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[–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Fuck the ai os wave. Do not force that shit into my life. I'm fine with using ai, but ai is not gonna stare over my shoulder. I decide when I use it. Never going back from Linux. Still stuck with a samsung phone but we'll see

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[–] Kewlio251@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My problem is that it's not that fucking useful. I got the Pixel 9 specifically because of its advertised AI chip for the assistant and I swear it's just gotten worse since the Pixel 7. I used to be able to ask Google anything through the assistant, and now 90% of my questions are answered with "can't find the information."

They also advertised (or at least heavily alluded to) the use of the AI chip when you are in low network areas but it works just as good outside of 4g+ coverage as it ever did without the stupid chip.

Whats the point of adding AI branded nonsense if there's no practical use for it. And that doesn't even start to cover the issues with AI's reliability as a source of information. Garbage in = garbage out.

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[–] TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (12 children)

AI is going to be this eras Betamax, HD-Dvd, or 3d TV glasses. It doesn't do what was promised and nobody gives a shit.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Betamax had better image and sound, but was limited by running time and then VHS doubled down with even lower quality to increase how many hours would fit on a tape. VHS was simply more convenient without being that much lower quality for normal tape length.

HD-DVD was comparable to BluRay and just happened to lose out because the industry won't allow two similar technologies to exist at the same time.

Neither failed to do what they promised. They were both perfectly fine technologies that lost in a competition that only allows a single winner.

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[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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