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Back in 1970, Alvin Toffler wrote Future Shock, where he introduced the idea that too much rapid change could leave people feeling overwhelmed, stressed, and disconnected. He called it "future shock" — and honestly, reading it today feels almost eerie with how accurate he was.

Toffler believed we were moving from an industrial society to a "super-industrial" one, where everything would change faster than people could handle. The book was a huge hit at the time, selling over six million copies, but what's crazy is how much of what he talked about feels even more true in 2025. Some examples:

  • Disposable culture: He predicted throwaway products, and now we have single-use plastics, fast fashion, and gadgets that feel obsolete within a year.

  • Tech burnout: Toffler said technology would become outdated faster and faster. Today, if you don’t upgrade your phone or update your software, you feel left behind.

  • Rent instead of own: Services like Airbnb and Uber fit his prediction that we’d move away from owning things and toward renting everything.

  • Job instability: He nailed the rise of the gig economy, freelancing, and how fast-changing industries make it hard to stay trained up and secure.

  • Transient relationships: He warned about shallow, fleeting social connections — something social media, dating apps, and global mobility have absolutely amplified.

  • Information overload: This term literally came from Future Shock, and if you've ever felt exhausted just from scrolling through your feeds or reading the news, you know exactly what he meant.

Toffler also talked about the "death of permanence" — not just products, but relationships, jobs, even identities becoming temporary and interchangeable. He warned it would cause "shattering stress and disorientation." Looking around at the rising rates of anxiety, depression, and burnout today, it’s hard not to see what he meant.

I think about this book a lot when I read about some of the sick things happening today. Is this a warped perspective?

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[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I’m absolutely shocked at how racist the future got.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Compared to 1970? Trump is making it worse but it's not that bad yet.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nope. The 1970s were better than the 60s, and worse than the 80s. And the 90s were better still. The early 2000s were even better.... but here we are certainly backtracking from where things had been going.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But I didn't say that the 70's were worse than the 1960's!!!

I said the 1970's were worse than today.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Compared to

We're in agreement. My "nope" was directed at your question. The rest of my comment was illustrating why I'm shocked at how racist things have become. Because the trend was to improve until recently.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i'm in my early 40s. back when i was a kid - even in the southern US - there was a clear message that racism was on its way out. tons of sitcoms even did special episodes about it! (/s) And because media was so controlled back then (ie you couldn't just post something to the internet), a lot of people actually blelieved it. i know that i did as a kid who didn't know any better.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this similar to violent crime? A lot of right wingers bemoan the increasing amount of violence in "blue states and cities". Except, almost by any way you can measure it, violent crime has been on the decrease for years now. Is racism becoming worse, or are you just becoming more aware of it?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think it depends where you place the starting point. It's certainly less racist than the 1800s, or even the 1940s. But if you only measure your own lifetime (so call it starting at the early 1980s), I think it did dip in the late 90s, and stayed in the dip until about 2008. Then it came soaring back to 1980s levels.

And now it feels like it's rising, being used as a tool of fascism.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Serious question: if someone claimed deaths by smoking are up or down, there's stats we could rely on to tell if that's the truth or not. How do we tell the amount of racism in 2025? What statistic or statistics are indicative of racism?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use general reactions of society. If you see things like protests, societial movements, riots, demonstrations, ect, it may not be an exact number, but in general if people are mad enough to take to the streets, we know those issues are on the rise.

And if everything is mostly calm, you know those issues aren't the dominant issues of the day.

It also is harder because the internet has changed society. Now issues can grow and gain exposure to a global audience instantly. So it's no longer grassroots movements. Thats what made the million man march so impressive. A million black men, marching in suits, because they knew if they didn't dress up they would be mocked as thugs, all without the media to help them, all organized this way exclusively through word of mouth. And they had a million men march with them.

It wouldn't be so impressive today. Now you can just post a thing online, the whole world sees it. Nobody gives a shit about clothing, and the march would be a petition online. And nobody would care.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

nobody would care

Information Overload. The march doesn't matter. The people who did the upsetting thing have already gone on to do several more upsetting things by the time we've started marching against the first one. The people reporting about the upsetting thing miss the point but it doesn't matter because nobodies actually paying attention, it's just fluff on in the background. The white noise we need to go about our day maintaining some false sense of "staying up to date" when it's impossible to do. The torrent of information comes from all over the globe and never stops growing. Even if everything is suddenly perfect in your neighborhood, city, state, or country, it doesn't matter because there's a genocide somewhere else, and the pope died, and there's a famine and a new study that says the sweet treats you like are going to kill you and the stock market is down but it's back up by the time you check and you should've bought the dip so you could actually retire but you were too busy ignoring a TV while looking at bad news on your phone and eating a sweet treat because nothing feels real anymore and you just need a hit of dopamine before you start panicking and reach for the gun in the nightstand to put a bullet in your brain because at least the bullet will be real and the silence afterwards won't be temporary.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 months ago

Just spitballing, but you could track it by number of hate crimes? There's the issue that the United States notoriously underreports hate crimes, so you might not be able to find accurate numbers, but I think that's the best hard statistic you could find for racism

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

The only real change was how open those assholes felt they could be. Doubt they increased or declined at all. They just got platformed.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same here. Grew up deep in the South. Kids got in trouble for racist talk in public school.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

i want to say i don't know what changed, but the only thing that changed is that the government they hate said it's fine to hate again. stupid isn't even the word

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nobody's suggesting it wasn't. But a lot of us have lived our whole lives with the idea that racism was generally frowned upon by most and that it was naturally dying out. I don't think many of us could have predicted how readily it would come roaring back, along with god damn nazis, FFS.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everybody was faking being decent. The whole time they were monsters writhing in a tortured disgust at minorities finding equality.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people are struggling with that realisation. My wife has always been extremely close with her 2 sisters and mother, and they all voted trump last year. She's had a very hard time with it, but she's kind of at the point now where she's severed a lot of her connection to them. She's just being polite to them at this point.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

I stopped talking to mine. Good for her.

[–] SouthFresh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Yes it absolutely was. And while we seemed for a while to have been on a trajectory where it was decreasing steadily, that sure changed quickly.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's not really so much the rapidness of the changes, but what is rapidly changing that worries me.

If we were rapidly moving towards progress, I'd be fine. But we are rapidly going fucking backwards here in the states.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Idk if anything technological change has massively stagnated because exploitation of workers is far cheaper than reducing costs through innovation.

Disposable culture: He predicted throwaway products, and now we have single-use plastics, fast fashion, and gadgets that feel obsolete within a year.

Tech burnout: Toffler said technology would become outdated faster and faster. Today, if you don’t upgrade your phone or update your software, you feel left behind.

Compare the leap between iPhone 3GS to iPhone 4 and iPhone X to whatever the newest one is.

My phone is a Pixel 4a and the only noticeable difference between it and the latest pixel is that this one has a headphone jack and the others don't and they look like shit and have a worse selfie cam lol.

There used to be a time where upgrading your GPU every year would get you better bang for your buck long-term because improvements were so rapid. Now your 1070Ti can still run most games fairly well and with something like a 3090 you can last another 5 years easily, while the PS5 is barely any different to the PS4.

  • Information overload: This term literally came from Future Shock, and if you've ever felt exhausted just from scrolling through your feeds or reading the news, you know exactly what he meant.

I don't get this one at all. I don't feel exhausted whatsoever, information is actually stimulating. Of course if you only scroll the news you'll feel depressed because we live in a dystopia, but that's not information overload, it's just sad. On the other hand if simply reading anything makes you overwhelmed that just seems like a lack of reading stamina so you can just not do that, or develop that stamina.

Transient relationships: He warned about shallow, fleeting social connections — something social media, dating apps, and global mobility have absolutely amplified.

I don't think this is a bad thing.

Rent instead of own: Services like Airbnb and Uber fit his prediction that we’d move away from owning things and toward renting everything.

Job instability: He nailed the rise of the gig economy, freelancing, and how fast-changing industries make it hard to stay trained up and secure.

This is all basic capitalism and it's consequences.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

EDIT: not sure what I said that was so controversial as to being deserving of downvotes.

I try to never just slam that button instead of replying, because then we all lose out on learning a bit more. When I read your comment, especially the bit:

Of course if you only scroll the news you’ll feel depressed because we live in a dystopia, but that’s not information overload, it’s just sad. On the other hand if simply reading anything makes you overwhelmed that just seems like a lack of reading stamina so you can just not do that, or develop that stamina.

That feels a lot like telling someone depressed: "Hey idiot, ever thought of just not being sad?" I think the really tragic point is there are some people extremely addicted to doom-scrolling, despite feeling awfully sad about it. Classical addiction.

And then, some other gems, like:

Transient relationships: He warned about shallow, fleeting social connections — something social media, dating apps, and global mobility have absolutely amplified. I don’t think this is a bad thing.

This feels profoundly against human nature. We seem predisposed, almost since birth, to try to form deep, lasting relationships with other people. You might feel this way but I'm not sure it's a typical state.

Job instability: He nailed the rise of the gig economy, freelancing, and how fast-changing industries make it hard to stay trained up and secure.

This is all basic capitalism and it’s consequences.

But it's not though... capitalism is hundreds of years old, yet the gig economy is not. If it's just "basic capitalism" wouldn't we have expected to see "ye Olde Ubere" workers in 1560?

[–] GhostPain@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Nah bro, we're suffering from Late Stage Capitalism and Christo-facism.

This isn't a bug this is a feature of the US. It's always been intended to be this way. The mid 20th century was the outlier.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Here's the Futureshock documentary I was show in high-school around 1982 for anyone interested https://youtu.be/fkUwXenBokU

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Very cool idea!

Tho I think people from 70s would very much still choose 2025 living over 70s. People really underestimate how much better we have now.

Especially if you take a look at the whole world outside of US bubble. You think people in Asia and Africa yearn for 70s? You think people in Easrten Europe has any fondness of Soviet occupation? Future shock is shockingly great in their eyes.

I think the more apt issue here is simply the fact that US empire is falling as this shock does not replicate everywhere so clearly it's not universal. Most places benefited greatly from information flow and imo it's a very clear net gain.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tho I think people from 70s would very much still choose 2025 living over 70s. People really underestimate how much better we have now.

Couldn't I yearn for a time that has neither the bad points of 1970 and none of the bad points from 2025? Not everything was worse in the 1970s, and not everything was better, either.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure the same way I yearn for Middle Earth then.

If you take at least half of a reasonable utilitarian position then 70s don't stand a chance no matter how you look at it. Everything is literally better now except nostalgic bullshit like "housing was cheaper if I was white american" and "I couldn't doomscroll" sort of nonsense. Absolute drivel.

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 0 points 11 months ago

I don't find it too hard to indicate some things that were actually better in the 1970s:

  • Consumer goods and appliances were typically more reliable and designed to be repaired
  • Less additives in the food supply
  • Obesity was less of a problem
  • College education was more affordable with an entry level job
  • Children had more freedom (would roam the neighborhood for hours unsupervised)
  • Less surveilance

I can make all these points without saying "1970 was better in every way than 2025". Why does it have to be all-or-nothing? Can't some things have been better then and not worse?

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Future Shock isn’t about the 70s or any decade being “better.” It’s about the effects of rapidly changing technology not that technology shouldn’t change.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago

Fascism Shock, too.

[–] Menagerie@pawb.social 0 points 11 months ago

Future Shock is pretty spot on with it's predictions. Reading it convinced me to try and take things slower, and to spend less time on the phone, on the internet, which helped. Then covid came along, and pushed me right back into information overload...

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think some people are, but not everyone. But the people most prone to that future shock are the older, wealthier generations, and they're using their wealth and positions of power to take out their confusion and fear on everyone else that still sees that the world has room for improvement.

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It makes me upset that we're probably going to find a cure for aging before we find a way to get the old generations to adapt to change.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Sometimes I wonder if I'm ready to die in my 30s. Any genuine humane reasoning for living is quickly denied.

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