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[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bill have allowed 16 year olds to work 8 hours over night with no lunch/meal break while also attending school during the day. It's slave labor.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't his state the same one that removed worker's protections from heat, like mandatory water and cooling breaks for outdoor workers? Or was that Texas? Fuck both him and Abbot in the temple with a crowbar, either way... Fucking ghouls.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, FL not just removed it, they stated no local areas could implement their own and that contractors were banned from implementing anything of the sort for their employees. Not sure if anyone has checked on hospitalization/ death from heart exhaustion or heat stroke since that was signed in to law.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who bans employers from protecting their workers?! Seriously!

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Uh, conservatives do. This is not a joke, or a "dunk", this shit really happened.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

that was texas, florida would do this eventually.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The bill would have permitted 16- and 17-year-olds to work overnight on school days and work longer than an eight-hour day before a school day. Some 14- and 15-year-olds would also have been allowed to work those hours.

While sane and modern countries use this time to educate children and ensure they don't need to work graveyard shifts during high school even go so far as funding their higher education so they can become highly-functional and productive tax-paying members of society, America begins its foray into bringing back child labor to backfill some of the most grueling and thankless jobs in the country.

Great fucking job you fucks

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know why they bother. Unemployment is probably going to be rampant by this time next year. No need to work kids to death when they can just starve them.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think they’re planning on anyone growing up to pay taxes. They wanna make their cash today.

[–] k0mprssd@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well... isn't this the same crowd that wants to get rid of the IRS?

[–] MrVilliam@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Yep. "Now that you don't pay taxes, your boss can pay you less and you'll still have higher net pay."

It's all for the oligarchs. They don't give a shit about the people.

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Dude, seriously FUCK Newsweek. Reddit posts this garbage news clickbait crap all the time. Posting Newsweek trash is just a complete waste of time. Use better, local, independent news organizations instead of a rag that just uses clickbait and sensationalism. Fuck off Newsweek.

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I worked for a greenhouse in the Niagara region. We had maybe 2-3 migrant workers at a time and they worked HARD. My boss once said that he would prefer to hire the students from the local horticulture program but he still usually needs a few migrant workers to make sure we get through the season. He then informed me to look closer at the people working the fields around the area. The amount of work being done by migrant workers would simply not get done if they were kicked out. They make up a majority of the labour required so the grocery stores can put 5000 tomatoes on display at a time.

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are far less teenagers then migrants. Maybe those businesses should move away from exploitation altogether.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop bringing up facts and figures, I have wordly experience!

-The average conservative voter

[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Voters? I have no qaulm with voters, I hate that how the elected officials act!

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I have no qaulm with voters, I hate that how the elected officials act!

do you not see a connection there?

[–] HearTwoTalk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

They act that way, because they know that their voters will still reelect them.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So slaves sorry, prisoners have to pick up the slack.

Remember, the Constitution allows slavery! Plus, it only bans punishments that are cruel and unusual - punishments that are just cruel or just unusual are fine!

[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

If you push for child labour and have less osha power to keep them safe plus lower regulations on selling tainted meat then on top all that you have courts that don't hold businesses accountable, you'll end up with people eating children that fall in something like an industrial meat grinder and even if people do find out they don't have to recall it, some may even have a choice if they can't afford something better

[–] puddinghelmet@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

What in the 1600

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would have only worked if those were mining jobs. You know how them kids yearn for the mines. Minor miners.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly, Florida doesn't have the right geology for mines.

Unfortunately for Floridians there are definitely open pit mines in Fla.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

THIS is Why America is on the Decline! Kids need WORK ETHICS not EDUCATION!

-Parents like Elon Musk who Complain about WOKENESS for Why Their Children HATE them!

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Just imagine... Kamala was somehow worse.

/s for those easily triggered assholes

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good. But I don't agree with anyone I know that Florida "isn't that bad."

I don't have a map of statistics where bad shit happens, but if I did, Florida would stand out.

It's a fucking swamp. Humans aren't meant for that environment. (Actually, I don't know if humans ever naturally adjusted to swamps, it just seems like tons of horrible ways to die)

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There were native tribes living there prior to the Europeans coming.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they were constantly fighting over the few places humans can live.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

Depends where you look.

We did this already, why must we repeat the worst parts of history?

When The U.S. Government Tried To Replace Migrant Farmworkers With High Schoolers

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

newsweek is a conspiracy peddling right-wing rag, please stop driving traffic to them

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In November 2022, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported that Newsweek had "taken a marked radical right turn by buoying extremists and promoting authoritarian leaders" since it hired conservative political activist Josh Hammer as editor-at-large. It noted the magazine's elevation of conspiracy theorists, publication of conspiracy theories about COVID-19, views such as support for a ban on all legal immigration to the United States and denying adults access to trans-affirming medical care, and failure to disclose potential conflicts of interest in the content published on Hammer's opinion section and podcast.

Newsweek in particular is vile and horrible, and you are driving traffic to them. That there are other news sites with problems is whataboutism, it doesn't address that this problem.

Here's an easy alternative: https://www.axios.com/local/tampa-bay/2025/03/25/florida-child-labor-bill-migrant-workers

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's odd that despite having been on Lemmy for a year you've never made a single news or politics post. The very best way to make sure posts are from sources you approve of is to make posts from sources you approve of.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't tend to post news or politics, I think those posts are rather saturated on Lemmy.

It's pretty ironic my most recent post is a political post, and here's another political news article post I made ... So to say I've "never made a single news or politics post" I think is factually wrong.

Either way, I was hoping to appeal to your conscience here.

I'm not sure I understand your moral argument - you say that there are moral problems with every news source, and if we held moral standards to the sources we used, no posts would be permitted on Lemmy, but ... you know, there are better and worse places to drive traffic, better and worse places to use as a source. It's not all or nothing, you have to know this right?

So, reading between the lines, what I'm hearing from you is that it's not a deal-breaker for you to drive traffic to a website that perpetuates conspiracy theories and seeks to deny people like me healthcare, that these are morally tolerable positions.

I've been thinking about this a lot since reading this article on free speech about how often people will side with "free speech" until it's a topic they don't actually tolerate - e.g. very few "free speech" advocates continued to defend Milo Yiannopoulos after he started to advocate for pedophilia.

Here's the salient point I think the article makes:

The truth of the matter is that there are two types of speech or expression: those that we (either as individuals, or as a society) are willing to tolerate, and those that we do not. (This is explained compellingly here.) You may cherish a particular word, idea, expression, or identity. But if enough people collectively refuse to tolerate it, well . . . you can shout “free speech!” at the top of your lungs all you want, but it isn’t going to protect you.

In the end, what I'm hearing is you are willing to tolerate a news source that peddles far-right conspiracy theories that aim to strip people of their rights and manipulate people into rejecting science, that these ultimately are tolerable views, ones you are willing to indirectly support by continuing to link to Newsweek and drive traffic there.

Maybe you would not feel the same about linking to a neo-Nazi website directly, or to a Holocaust denial website, or maybe a website that hosts child pornography or advocates for pedophilia - I assume these are views you probably wouldn't tolerate and wouldn't want to be associated with or support even indirectly.

It's OK if my attempt to appeal to your conscience failed - I assumed from the start that we were more likely to be on the same page on this, but I guess I was wrong. Sorry for wasting your time.

[–] beernutz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don't know their past, or their politics, but they are right. Newsweek should be avoided when possible.

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did corn detasseling for 2-half days (we got rained out on day 1) back when I was 12. I imagine those migrants were much more capable and tolerant of the bs than I was. -I remember the humidity in the fields, the mud, and the desire to vomit.

[–] JLock17@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Teens are a really bad workforce to rely on. It's always been understood that kids work for their own benefit, and the business just happens to benefit from that. They need a savings so they can move out on their own when they graduate. This isn't for their benefit, this is so companies can fuel their needs for wage slaves.

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