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For example workplace harrasment by women towards males like touching or groping being ignored because the victim is male but if it where to happen to a woman by a male the male would be fired

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[–] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fact that any point made in this post, no matter how reasonable a complaint, or how heinous it would be considered if done to a woman, will likely be derided and dismissed as misogyny, mansplaining, whining, etc, and all male participants in the discussion labeled as incels.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know any specific cases, but one thing I've heard that police (at least in Brazil) will just laugh at and ignore, is when a man is the victim of an abusive partner.

Of course, it's nowhere as common as men being the violent/abusive partner, but it happens, yet "society" will effectively say "grow a pair"

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Most studies show domestic abuse is almost always close 50/50 in perpetrators.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ITT about male victims of sexism-based double-standard, we see

  • stories of female victims
  • downvoting stories of male victims
  • the top-voted post about how men can't speak up for fear of being shouted down

Wow, Lemmy. Be better than Reddit.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

This thread and ones like it just prove the point

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well, for one, the ability to freely talk about issues specific to their gender without judgement by ~20% of the population

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

We had to shutter !twoxchromosomes@slrpnk.net because of persistent and vocal judgement by a large population of Lemmy users, many from Lemmy.World. So no, talking about issues specific to their gender is definitely not a double standard where men get the short end of the stick.

This is why you get judged. Because you so nakedly put on display how much ignorance and little empathy you have for women's issues.

!mensliberation@lemmy.ca exists specifically for men who understand their issues in society are intersectional with women's issues, and that solving them requires uniting to end patriarchy. Any discussion outside of that framing deserves the assumption that it's a misogynist men's pity party.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is it okay for twoX to be devoted to women's issues and actively discourage comparing them to men's issues, but men can't have an analogous space?

Fwiw, if your twoX was different from previous similarly-named communities then I am sorry it closed.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think you misunderstood me. I do think men should have an analogous space. I support !mensliberation@lemmy.ca 100%.

If you didn't misunderstand me, men don't need a space specifically for comparing their issues negatively against women's issues. That space is everywhere and anywhere, as evidenced by this discussion occurring in !asklemmy@lemmy.world and collecting overwhelmingly positive upvotes.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your comments here are an example of double standard.

You are asking for men issues to stay in groups specific to that issue. Anyone who did the same for questions about women would be called a misogynist.

[–] Five@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, you're really reaching there. I'm asking you to stop blaming women for men's problems. There's a group of people who aren't doing that, and if you don't want to be called a misogynist, follow the example of that group.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I'm asking you to stop blaming women for men's problems.

And yet you're the exact type of person to blame men for women's issues lol

Your mental gymnastics are funny