So instead of blaming the system that gave us two parties, you blame the voters who had no choice but to vote for two parties?
~Sounds solid. π~
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So instead of blaming the system that gave us two parties, you blame the voters who had no choice but to vote for two parties?
~Sounds solid. π~
Seriously. Someone let me know when weβre getting off the internet and rioting.
Someone let me know when weβre getting off the internet and rioting.
I heard they were just waiting for you, man.
plus it's objectively wrong as exemplified by the last election
really it seems like it's blaming people for just voting & hoping, instead of organizing and building a movement. voting for the lesser evil is not enough.
Nope, itβs also a consequence of often choosing the greater evil.
And for favouring short term over long term planning.
And zero-sum thinking.
And us vs them mentality.
And a lack of critical thinking in general.
Using AI for some tepid take about evil is fucking hilarious.
Um, I'm pretty sure some of it was choosing the greater of two evils
Not really, because if people consistently choose the lesser evil. Like if 90% voted for lesser evils, then the other party would have to change things up, or there could be a new party that would have a chance of winning because they're competing for that 90% of people and no way would the evil party win.
But no, problems isn't choosing lesser evil, it's that significant people still choose evil
Jeez...I hope this plan of not voting again works out for us this time.
That's just stupid... First of all, what are we supposed to do? Vote for the greater of two evils? Second, we DO vote for the greater of two evils!
Pretty sure the greater of two evils won a whole bunch of times.
I don't understand. We're bush, Nixon, Reagan and trump the lesser of 2 evils? I'm pretty sure they're the cause of the current MAGAstan government.
As opposed to choosing the greater evil for a change?
The actual issue is money in politics. It's the reason no politician wants voter reform. It's why Bernie never had a chance, not just as a presidential candidate. You need preferential voting, no more electoral college and no more Senate - pro rata representation only.
It's not like picking the worse evil would get you to a better place either.
Pretty sure donald was the eviler of two evils. The evilist of many evils.
L take
We as a society need to make posting AI slop as much of a taboo as, like, pissing on the side of a building. It should be something that you just don't do as a matter of decorum.
Except that choosing the greater evil is what's gotten us exactly where we are. Nixon, Reagan, W, Trump = greater evil every time.
Pretty sure more than half of these elections we're choosing the worse evil
Ok then, so what's your solution? I'm still gonna vote for the lesser evil, while still organizing and doing direct action, to reduce harm unless presented with an alternative.
Maybe a candidate that's good? You could run for an office.
Edit: essentially I mean for the situation at hand, especially with this upcoming election, what else can we do?
This isn't profound. It's actually just a dumb "both sides bad" take said by people who would snub a candidate they agree with on 70% of issues with a 50% chance of winning for a person they agree with on 90% of issues with a 5% chance of winning.
The 70% candidate losing isn't a win for your cause because now a person you agree with on 5% of issues just won.
I have a feeling without that, the evil would have reached a lot sooner.
I mean no. They literally chose the greater of two evils almost half the time.
"We're eating shit because you keep eating the shinier of two turds."
No, it's not. Bush v. Gore decided this trajectory for us, by some Supreme Court justices.