I guess? But it's also morally just to reuse disposables, repair instead of replace, conserve and reduce waste, and delay new purchases as long as possible. I'm doing environmental conservationism just by being poor!

They can choose not to.

Seems like there's plenty of entitled wealthy people in this thread. People who don't understand what it's like to be systemically pushed down into the mud; what it's like when all of your choices are either bad or worse.

"But you can recycle..." Shut the fuck up dude, recycling doesn't feed my fucking family. Recycling doesn't replace the years spent in an education system that's designed to make you a factory worker. Recycling doesn't bring living-wage-paying jobs to my hometown.

When the bills are in the mail, the tax man is coming, the landlord's raising the rent, and the bossman is driving a new car every year but can't pay you enough to keep your bank account from overdrafting, sometimes you have to do "immoral" shit.

Sometimes you have to kill an animal with no hunting license, sometimes you have to find a place to stay warm for the night, sometimes you have to feed your kids when all you have is cardboard and that might mean stealing bread from the dollar store.

Honestly, rich people are pretty shitty themselves.

People is bad or good. Money don't have that much factor in that. It only changes the type of "bad things" you do, but bad people will do bad things and good people will do good things.

Don't fall for the sentient that all poor are good and all rich are bad, or that all rich are good and all poor are bad. Because that doesn't correlate with really.

Yes, maybe a poor bad fella will stab you, while a bad rich guy will deny your medical insurance. They both are taking your life, different approaches to evilness due different disposable income available to do evil shit.

I'm sorry but this is fucking stupid. WHO is calling WHAT immoral? Someone babbling on recycling, who the fuck cares about recycling?

Poorest people are 100% capable of making choices that align with their personal values as anyone else. This is such a fucking Christian thread. What, do you think morals come from the Bible? what a joke

Don't use being poor to justify your shitty choices bro, wtf? Trash take.

Wait till you realize morality is shitty fucked up crutch that doesn't work at best and a tool to control people at... usual, not even the worst

I understand where you're coming from, because many societies are being structured in ways that make it feel like you are only hurting yourself by not being just and moral. It's truly horrible when trying to live a life following "the good" puts you in the path of pain all the time, working jobs you don't want to afford not to be put out on the street (and God forbid you want to have kids if you're in a high cost of living area).

With all that being said: I'd fear becoming an evil person more than dying poor. I hope that we can work together to make a world that isn't run by greedy, bad people.

I think it was Mark Twain who said that in order for a man to be moral he needs to be well-fed first.

According to Lemmy poor people who have done not harm to others have the same morals that poor people that hurt others.

I personally know a homeless person that have never steal or hurt. And several poor people with homes but small income that have stab and stolen other people.

According to some out of touch lemmings those two person are morally equivalent.

Being poor doesn't justify being a shit person. And defending that is insulting to honest and moral poor people.