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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (14 children)

As a basic sms user, is RCS the reason my conversations now sometimes get flooded with messages like, "so-and-so loved this"?

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

iMessages does that when it falls back to SMS.

Google Messages works around it by manually parsing the message and adding the emoji to the message like iMessage does.

So Apple caused the problem, and only Google Messages accommodates for it afaik.

In a proper RCS chat that won't happen as Apple and Google will send the reactions natively.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

I wish we could simply get everyone to switch to text-based messaging systems that don't suck.

I miss when Jabber was more common.

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[–] book@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Honestly the best news I've seen in a while. It was RCS that drove me back to stock android. I'll be switching back to Graphene as soon as this lands.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 128 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The number of Europeans in here acting like What's App, which might as well be Facebook Messenger, is some sort of high road is hilarious.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 66 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Yeah I still don't get why people use or promote WhatsApp. If anything, use Signal or even Telegram

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 61 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Telegram is worse than even Whatsapp, since it's not even pretending to be end to end encrypted.

The real choice is signal or threema.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Or something equally secure and also decentralized like Briar or Cwtch.

[–] mursejoy@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 days ago (17 children)

I have thought this for years. Everyone slimes on Americans for using iMessage and asks who no WhatsApp? Same reason I’m not on facebook, don’t use a meta quest, and don’t use instagram.

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[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 183 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good. Everything Google touches needs to be forked.

[–] ByteMe@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago (6 children)
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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 125 points 3 days ago (20 children)

2 weeks now on Graphene. This is what a phone OS should be, simple, boring, juste the basics without a shit-ton of bloatware and spying crap.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

This is what a phone OS should be

Quite literally how my wife puts it. She's been using Graphene on a Pixel 9 Pro XL for a few months now. Even with the hurdles of moving to an entirely different platform and the weirdness that comes with the extra security (not playing nice with some services), she vastly prefers it over her previous Apple stuff, to the point she wants me to wipe MacOS off of her iMac and install Linux.

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[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Excellent! Since Signal removed SMS support there's no trusted app supporting old SMS and encrypted messaging on one UI

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

SMS is not to be trusted because it is plain text and full of vulnerabilities.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I know. But I still need it whether I want it or not.

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[–] SethDove@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Literally everyone should just use Signal. I really don't understand why we all don't.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  • Dropping SMS support made sense from a security standpoint but slaughtered adoption
  • When the central server eshittifies, we'll all have to switch again.
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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Because Signal 1) doesn't ship as default, and 2) requires a login process.

You've already lost the majority of the general public with the former. On top of that, the Venn diagram of "people who go through with logging in" and "people who already know about Signal" has significant overlap.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But the same is true for WhatsApp…

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (16 children)

I hope it's functionally installable on other versions of android

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[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Aw helllllllll yeah 😎

[–] lemmysmash@piefed.social 54 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For those who got too excited by the title: read the original messages from the GrapheneOS. RCS de-facto is not an open technology, there's a massive amount of work and multiple steps are needed to get anywhere near the proper independent implementation. It's gonna be amazing if the GrapheneOS team pulls it off, but don't get too excited about the release dates and its availability for other systems (e.g. Linux).

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Is there a reason we can't just all use Quik across the de-googled OSes? Vendor specific solutions only further the closed ecosystem problem.

https://f-droid.org/packages/dev.octoshrimpy.quik.fdroid/

https://github.com/quik-sms/quik

[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't see any mention that Quik works with RCS. Am I mistaken about this?

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[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

While that is a good SMS app (in fact, it's the one I'm currently using), it does not support RKS.

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