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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Because Signal 1) doesn't ship as default, and 2) requires a login process.

You've already lost the majority of the general public with the former. On top of that, the Venn diagram of "people who go through with logging in" and "people who already know about Signal" has significant overlap.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago (3 children)

But the same is true for WhatsApp…

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 12 points 3 days ago

You see, the problem is that whatsapp came very early, when it released it wasn't shit and it provided free messages which in many european countries wasn't a thing yet, everyone hopped on it and used it as main communication platform, this created a big ass network effect that is nearly unescapeable, even today i can't escape from it because i am the only idiot who uses Signal and Matrix and no one wants to leave whatsapp because they already have an account and all their contacts

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

Was true (except for trustworthy encryption). Then network effects took over and peer pressure did the work.

It could happen again in a good way this time, but the resistance will be stiff.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Used to shill XMPP but everyone should use Tox at this point ngl.

  • No registration
  • No phone number
  • It's impossible to send anything unencrypted

downside: Sharing IDs is annoying (QR code if you are on mobile? idk haven't tried)

updownsides:

  • It does not concern itself with backlog storage (unsent messages sit until at least one device of both parties are online)
  • It does not concern itself with file storage (sent - poof, gone)