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[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

More info in this thread.

https://lemmy.world/post/49947403

And this comment lays out the "how we got here". https://lemmy.world/comment/24932006

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

TIL about the malware. Wow, what an asshole.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Honestly* everyone, idek wtf tesseracts is, or for... Randomly just started seing memes and they kept going. Not even interested enough to dig into it

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

that's what the the tesseract developer was hoping that we would all do.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago

It's peak drama tbh

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Btw what are the realistic chances the guy suffers some actual consequences for the bullshit he has done?

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What consequences are you thinking about? If you're talking legal, I don't expect db0 to press charges, and I don't think he's done anything legally significant to anyone else. Being a dick isn't a crime.

Aside from that, odds are Tesseract is gonna disappear from most instances because mods generally like to have control of their moderation. I don't know what other relevance he might have, but he'll probably just fade from sight.

He'd already taken a hiatus, come back, been unhappy with the state of lemmy, tried to "fix it", got called out. Maybe he'll leave for good this time.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think he's done anything legally significant to anyone else. Being a dick isn't a crime.

he created the legal definition of a botnet, which is a crime.

dbzer0.com is hosted out of Bavaria. that means his botnet crossed international borders which means he can be charged by every country along the way of the crime.

all it would take is some anonymous tips to the FBI and German authorities and he would be investigated and likely charged.

dude was an asshole for stuffing a hidden blacklist into his platform. once he made the change to create a botnet, he became a criminal.

[–] filcuk@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago

I'm genuinely interested in knowing whether a case like this would be picked up at all. In the UK, it appears there is no minimal amount od damage incurred, so in such case I'd really think it's possible. Db0 don't even need to be the ones to sue or report the incident according to what I could find.

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not a lawyer, but producing and distributing malware sounds like it might be illegal. Or should, at least.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, sure. But who's gonna sue or press charges?

[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Those things don't apply to most crimes. The whole "pressing charges" thing is a trope or meme, except for a few specific cases like minor assault, minor property damage, defamation, certain sexual offenses (varies greatly between municipalities), etc. The vast majority of crime is prosecuted by the state without needing the victim's consent.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

Right, IDK how the proper term is in English, but who will bring this to some relevant authority that will initiate that prosecution? Will any particular authority care enough to prosecute? Is there any realistic chance that this will result in legal consequences?

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago

You seem to be speaking from an American point of view. It most definitely is a thing in other parts of the world.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

At the very least, I can't see mods wanting to have a front-end that hides things in ways that they can't turn off.

Otherwise, people on the blocklist would become effectively immune to moderators using the front-end, because they'd be completely hidden.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, I know that my instance's admins have announced they'll be shutting down their Tesseract frontend. As I said, I expect others will as well for the reasons you mention, but I haven't kept track (and don't see their posts pinned to my feed obviously) so I didn't want to assume.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's a standard centrist democrat who got a tiny bit of power.

Of course he abused it, mainly against trans people and the left.

[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nah, worse, he’s a chudservative

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

If he were a chudservative instead of a centrist, he wouldn't also have conservative instances on there, and centrists wouldn't be defending his targeting of the left.

Instead, they're like "I didn't know maga.place was a leftist instance."

Got banned for a month from one of the 196es for pushing back on that particular centrist pro-censorship narrative.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i wonder what it means that this comment is downvoted and completely true.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It means centrists like censorship of the left and don't like being called out on it. AdmiralPatrick did what any of them would do in his situation.

Since genocide isn't beyond the pale, why would censorship be?

[–] vanillama@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

You see, there's this thing called NUANCE /s