The sequels suck but Andor is a legit masterpiece.
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There's nothing magic about Lucas's vision. But JJ Abrams vision is exclusively "bigger is better". Death Star destroys planets? Well, this Death Star IS a planet. And it kills multiple planets, and it's called Starkiller, and it shoots through hyperspace.
Star Destroyer? Let's make each one a Death Star. With a big gun. And you can ride horses on the hull.
Stormtroopers? They fly now.
(Godzilla? Uhh.. My monster is just as big as Godzilla, and it's only a baby.)
I recommend Rogue One, the Clone Wars, and Bad Batch
I would add Rebels. First season is a liiiiittle more kid friendly and toned down than it really needed to be, the rest of it is fantastic and finished the story of Darth Maul.
If you hadn't heard Maul and Ventress are getting their own show. She has hair!
I enjoyed The Force Awakens, but the other two I enjoyed more for just cool individual scenes (lightsaber boat battle, etc) than the movies themselves.
i think they're worth watching just so you can see how bad they are and how much disney fumbled the bag by hiring the worst people imaginable to write/direct the garbage.
it really shines how much they finally "got it" by hiring Tony Gilroy to come in to fix/salvage Rogue One before letting him loose with Andor - arguably the greatest Star Wars ever made that's on par with the originals.
I watched all of the trilogy of trilogies with my dad in theaters, so they will always have a special place in my heart. I enjoyed all of them for that reason, but I look at the sequels as good entertainment for the afternoon, but I'm not interested in seeing them again. I also don't intend to watch any of the shows. I'm sure they are good, or at least momentarily entertaining, but I'm not so interested/invested in the franchise anymore. I've moved on.
no, you shouldn't have watched the prequels either.
I liked the first one from the sequel trilogy, the second one made me hate movies for a while. It was so bad, inconsistent and out of character. I couldn't force myself to watch the third one, and lost interest in the franchise altogether.
Iβd argue you should watch A New Hope because it was groundbreaking at the time, Empire Strikes Back because itβs amazing by any standard, and Return of the Jedi only if you crave resolution. Then watch Rogue One because itβs borderline better than Empire Strikes Back.
Thereβs only 2 good Star Wars movies that are good by the standards of modern cinema.
First one is alright. Second one jumps off a cliff. Third starts off on a new cliff to jump off from
I very much enjoyed Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker. Last Jedi was painfully bad IMO. I like those other two much more than any of the prequels, true to Lucas' vision or not.
But, it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks, if you want to watch them then do. And if you do, and you like them, then all good. And if you do watch them, but don't like them, also all good. And if you decide not to watch them, also also all good.
Life's too short to worry about a bunch of movies.
The animated stuff like clone wars and rebels make the filoniverse come alive. Early mandalorian was great, andor was as well. So skip the movies and enjoy good star wars stuff instead.
Bad Batch got so close to delving into Palpatines force clone experiments, and went some dark places.
Yeah I still enjoyed it overall
They were fun to watch but I donβt take anything from Disney as canon except for rogue one and andor
I don't think they're as groundbreaking as the original trilogy (my preferred trilogy) but they're still watchable. Sometimes you gotta take things with a pinch of salt, even your favorite movie franchise.

I can rewatch the prequels. But the sequels are to me a single time popcorn movie.
I liked the starkiller base scene.
On Episode VII I walked out if the cinema. When my brother bought Episode VIII on DVD I gabe it a shot but turned it off after about an hour, never tried Episode IX.
I would say:
The Force Awakens: Not bad, basically a knock-off of A New Hope story-wise but it feels like Star Wars and is pretty harmless fun.
Rogue One: Probably the best of the Disney Star Wars movies IMO, although it does have a couple of dodgy "bringing back an old actor as CGI" scenes.
The Last Jedi: Lots of people hate this one, I'm slightly more forgiving. I think it tried to do something a bit weird and different, and it didn't really work. But I do appreciate the effort of not just playing it safe.
Solo: A Star Wars Story: Another one that seems to get a lot of heat, but I thought it was pretty inoffensive. Although my brain did kind of delete most of it as soon as it was over lol.
The Rise of Skywalker: Legitimately one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I can't even call it a bad movie, because it's essentially just a random series of Star Wars-themed sounds and images that batter you for what feels to be about a year and a half before it mercifully ends, taking with it any good will towards the franchise you might have had left.
the force awakens
My only issue with TFA isn't the movie itself. It's just that it sets up so much good stuff that the rest of the trilogy just doesn't do fuck all with. There are some really cool story points, some incredible characters, and amazing acting. Then just garbage through the next two.
Rouge One
Yeah this is easily the best star wars movies IMO. It's hectic, and all over the place, and there's a ton of characters, then it just all clicks together in the last little bit of the movie. No spoilers or anything but you absolutely need to watch this. I genuinely can't over recommend this enough, it's a golden movie. Then go watch Andor, its easily the best Star wars TV and there are a couple scenes id nominate for top 10 TV scenes of all time. It's the prequel to Rouge One and goes over Cassian Andor (main character in Rouge One) story.
Solo
I actually really enjoyed Solo. Its not super relevant to the greater star wars saga, and its not the most ground breaking piece of cinema ever. But its fun and enjoyable, just go into it with the idea that its "filler content" for the rest of them.
TL:DR I mostly agree with you
For sure. I would say that for me, Rogue One didn't live up to the hype that it has until that final 20 minutes. The final 20 minutes made it all worth it.
I kind of wish that JJ Abrams did all three films. TLJ really threw away a lot of what was set up in TFA. TROS is basically unforgivable regardless though.
Ive been tempted to watch it all chronologically
I'm gonna die on the hill that rogue one was unnecessary.
Its a cool ass movie, but the "everything must have detailed in universe lore"-culture annoys me so much. Especially regarding a franchise that started as metaphoric of a story as star wars.
Like I don't need in-universe guides to enjoy old kung fu hero movies with floaty wallruns and rooftop jumps. Its all metaphor and stylistic choice.
Why do I need midichlorians and shoehorned blueprint fudging? Plus the ending was so predictable, i was disappointed when realising they really didn't come up with a better out than what i guessed before sitting down in the theater.
Agree with all that.
Maybe bit more negative on both Last Jedi and the Solo movie. I don't even remember if I actually watched the whole Solo movie because it was so forgettable.
Rise of the Skywalker, any bad review I read heavily underestimated how terrible of a Star Wars movie it is. Like, really bad. I held of watching it for many years, had the lowest of low expectations. And it still hit me how bad it was.
Regarding The Last Jedi - I agree that it tried something different, and that wasn't a bad approach. What killed it for me however was the amount of slapstick and Marvel-esque humor. Star Wars always felt like mostly serious movies - sure, there was always goofy stuff like the trash chute monster or Jar Jar, but all in all they had the air of movies that take themselves seriously (probably due to the space opera nature).
TLJ was the first movie where I didn't feel any of that. The first scene basically took a shit on a beloved character by way of cheap slapstick, and that never stopped.
Boy, you couldn't be more wrong.
Ah yes, thank you for your detailed and useful critique of my comment. Let me respond in kind:
No u!
Only if you want to get filled in on how bad they were. Otherwise, nah. Just watch the critics and you'll get the gist of it.
Force Awakens: I can't recommend it but if it were already on I wouldn't turn it off. Pretty much just repeatedly yelling "Hey, remember when you liked Star Wars? This is kinda like that!" But it's inoffensive as nostalgia bait goes, a fairly well-made toy commercial.
Last Jedi: It has themes and character development and adds depth to the setting. Uniquely among the trilogy, it is an actual movie made by actual adults. There are some pacing issues but it's pretty solid on balance. Not amazing or anything but I'd say it's worth the average Star Wars fan's time.
Rise of Skywalker: People were very upset that Last Jedi had been an actual movie, so this reversed course on that decision and HARD. There is literally nothing there at all behind the jingling of its keys in your face and it jingles them very aggressively.
Yes
If you're don't like star wars, they are just sub-standard slop. 9 is a heavy contender for "so bad it's funny" like sharknado
The Last Jedi is legitimately a very good movie.
The Force Awakens is fine, but dull and mostly forgettable.
The Rise of Skywalker is just bad.
The sequels suck.
The Mandalorian, Rogue One, Andor, Ahsoka, The Clone Wars The Bad Batch, all range from great to decent. Hell, even the Boba Fett and Obi Wan series were okay.