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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Non-vegan playing devil's advocate, here; I've always hated that argument: Yes the chicken is already dead, but by purchasing the product, you're paving the way for more chickens to be killed to replace the one(s) you ate. Supply and demand. We need to come up with a better counter-argument.

Personally I'm not ready to stop eating meat, and probably never will be. I'm counting on lab-grown meat to come down in price enough to be produced en mssse within the next 10-15 years, and then I can enjoy all I want, 100% guilt-free. I will be among the first to buy it when it hits the supermarket.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What fallout character looks like Harry Potter?

[–] toofpic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Artaca@lemdro.id 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry, thanks. Why does that fallout character look like Harry Daniel?

[–] Gorillazrule@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No no, the character looks like Daniel Potter.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

…What chicken nuggies take 20 minutes to cook?

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A lot of them do in the oven. They’re way better that way.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think an air fryer has distorted my perception of cooking times, heh.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

And preheating!

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

(vegan)(arch) btw

[–] sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wouldn't it be more vegan-esque (?) to consume the chicken nugget and make use of it's sacrifice than to throw out an uncooked warm nugget?

[–] toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It wasn't a sacrifice. The chicken didn't volunteer.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 0 points 1 month ago

If it didn't volunteer then why did it choose to be born food?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

buying chicken nuggets rather obliterates any vegan-icity to start with

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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

Vegans: Why does no one like us?

Also Vegans: (Always "on" and going out of their way to insert themselves into situations so they can act exactly like that).

Yes I know not all vegans are like that but I also never see them telling the militant ones to STFU and stop making them al look bad.

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Do you expect vegans to mind control other vegans or something? Militant people are usually not the ones who listen when you ask them to shut up.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Militant" is being kind. "Belligerent" is closer to the experience.

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And belligerent types are even less likely to listen when you ask them to stop. That's exactly my point.

[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

It's so nice to agree 😁

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't buy meat, but I'll eat it if it's given to me. It's a treat to me, and I savour it when it happens. The downside is that vegetarians, vegans, and meat eaters all hate me 😂

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[Jokingly] That just sounds like you're a meat mooch.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 month ago

oppertunistic carnivore

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you are doing better than 98% of people so I think vegans and vegetarians would be extremely happy with that (I'm "vegan" but will eat stuff thats going in the trash otherwise)

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Vegetarians are happy at first, until they see me just devour a whole chicken once a month, then they give me the side eye lol. Vegans don't like that I eat dairy and eggs. Carnivores get annoyed when I have a meal of "rabbit food". I seem to annoy everyone 😂

I dunno, to me it's called having a varied diet and it's normal. Where I grew up, that's what you ate. Mostly plants, dairy from the cows/goats/sheep, eggs from the chickens. Then sometimes, the village would slaughter a goat, and you had a party and ate as much meat as you could because it doesn't preserve well. The animals were treated with respect, but we also ate them sometimes. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

Food is a weird thing, I find people care a lot about what I eat for some reason. It feels like I'm not following some unspoken rules or something

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think anyone in the carnivore space would be annoyed at you eating what you choose to eat. If you're healthy, why would it bother anyone?

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-gooder_derogation

It's your subconscious telling you they're right and trying to protect your ego.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah, I will readily admit that vegans are morally correct, that I am weak for being unable to commit fully, and also that the evangelism is often cringe and counterproductive.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I think veganism just self-selects for insane people, because you have to be a bit crazy to go against 98% of the population, eat differently than your friends and family, and ask constantly if things have cheese or milk in them everywhere you go.

source: me e: im literally talking about myself in this paragraph

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 month ago

As someone who has gone a bit crazy eating against 99% of the population, differently then friends and family, and always having to ask if things have sugar or oil in them everywhere I go.... I can confirm I am insane.

you have to be a bit crazy to go against 98% of the population

Ah yes, because the ever-so sane majority is always right.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

and ask constantly if things have cheese or milk in them everywhere you go

Well, tbf ya vegans aren't alone on this one

  • my friend who dies if 0.001g of lactose gets in contact with his mouth
[–] crimson_iris@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not a vegan, but behavior change (if you want to change) is most effectively accomplished with smaller, incremental changes. If you try to make huge, sweeping changes from the start, there's a very good chance you won't stick with it. Vegans expecting you to "just" eliminate all animal products on day 1 is very unrealistic.

For the animal products example, you could reduce (not eliminate) consumption of one thing at a time. Start with one meal per week for a week or two, reduce the portion of meat or other animal product you want to eliminate by 1/3 or whatever you can manage. After a week or two, you reduce the portion in another meal. Give it a week or two. Then another portion. And another after that. Etc.

If you can do more, then try it out. If you feel like you can't reduce one week or another, don't pressure yourself to do it, just consider it a victory of sorts that you didn't eat more. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Taper the dosage, don't go cold turkey.

I haven't done this for animal products, but I have done it with alcohol and prescription medication. I can't guarantee you'll see success, all I can say is that it worked for me and others I learned from.

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

It's as annoying as someone bragging about big ol' raw steaks and ribs and such, like they have been doing in the Texas political stuff lately. Both as a smear ("look at this pussy non-Texan!") and a defense ("I do love ribs, I really do!") and it all comes across the same way to me.

Truthfully, neither types of statements personally bother me, but given everything we know about the climate, economics, etc., the vegans are better and easier to defend.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Regular vegetarians have tried to tell them to tone it down, it just makes them more radical.

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[–] lemjukes@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

punchlines make crappy titles

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