Selfhosted

A 24hr waiting period to use a competitor's product has to be one of the most blatant anti-competitive behaviour in history.

I genuinely appreciate the cause, but to sign this, I have to provide PII, agree to their terms of service and privacy policy, and get automatically opted-in to their mailing list that I'll have to unsubscribe from later.

So to petition against this shitty tech stuff, I have to go through this other shitty tech stuff. It sucks how normalized this all has become.

please just make an android alternative

I want a phone that isn't a closed ecosystem race to the bottom shit phone

You aren’t going to keep Android open. Respond by shoring up Linux phones.

Mandate that all boot loaders can be unlocked by consumers/device owners!

That single change alone would open the floodgates of development.

Manufacturer locked boot loaders was the single biggest mistake made in the phone world. Now just consider all the work it'll take to reverse that simple misstep made years ago that nobody gave a single thought to.

let's get real..google isn't going to stop. why would they? there's zero repercussions for their aggressive strategy against their own consumers.

so stop using their products. cut google out, entirely.

The number of times that signing an online petition has prevented the plans of an evil corporation is exactly zero.

@duckling5746@lemmy.today as a reminder the reason this is related to self-hosting should be obvious, whether in the title or the post text.

For this one, I'll note that this is key to self-hosting, and I think many know it. Many, myself included, use f-droid or similar 3rd party repos to manage the apps that we use with our self-hosted setup. With this change, many of the current apps we enjoy using will either need to register with Google, or essentially become unused. While there is a way to still do it, it is really messy, and requires an absolutely wild number of steps + 24hr "cooling off period". Its ridiculous.

Personally, I'm leaving the android ecosystem one way or the other. It may be using an android phone and hotspotting for another device running PMOS or similar, or getting a Moto with Graphene, whatever, but this change is impactful and horrendous.

I guess at a certain point I just stop using electronics.

Only an Android alternative will fix this. No amount of proactive work from users will change Google's mind on this.

Most online petitions are nothing more than a way to safely (for those targeted and for those amongst the authorities who support them even against the public interest) dissipate the common people's righteous indignation, by making them feel like they "did something" whilst said something is just about the least impactful thing imaginable.

(Some official ones, for example those mandating parliamentary sessions on the subject if they reach a certain threshold, might not be so, though its unclear as it really depends on the legislation around it allowing politicians to just ignore it at will)

This bullshit will require a lot more than adding your name into a list on some corner of the web in some legal jurisdiction where they're free to sell your private information.

Fuck you Pichai. They should be sued.

All this effort going towards “saving” green fascism when we should be pouring these efforts into Linux

Petitions are useless.