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[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev 47 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Let's break this down. Plugging these numbers into a mortgage calculator, yes a $600,000 home with a 3% interest rate would be a payment of ~$2024/month. However, this assumes a 20% down payment, $0 property taxes, $0 insurance, $0 HOA etc.

However, an 850k house at an 8.5% interest rate with those same numbers would "only" be $5228/month. Additionally, as other commenters have pointed out, interest rates are not that high.

OP is straight up lying to you at worst, or just cherry picking numbers in a very deceiving way at best.

Not that I'm trying to argue housing is affordable. Just that people will go on the Internet and tell lies to spin a narrative and drive engagement.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Donald Trump wants the interest rates to go down, so wealthy people can have more free money.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 27 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Can Also be titled why birth rates are low or why no one has spending money and sooo much more

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[–] plz1@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Those numbers are so not reality. $2K/month is nowhere near the payment for the first one.

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It could be. The very key thing that is left out of both is the down payment amount

[–] Tolos@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

600k at 3%, you need 229k down (38%) to pay $2,025/mo (assuming extremely low property tax and insurance).

850k at 8.5%, you need 40k down (4.71%) to pay $6,850/mo (assuming extremely low property tax and insurance).

40k seems like a much more reasonable down payment....

The 600k house at 3% with 40k down would be $2,821/mo. Almost $4k/mo difference from the 850k example.

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[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Point taken, but where are you in the world with an 8.5% mortgage? Rates in the US for 30 year mortgages are around 6.5% right now (source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MORTGAGE30US)

[–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 49 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

the baseline is around 6.5% but I don't think most people get that, plus it was up around 7.5% six months ago

the numbers in the meme are definitely closer to what we've seen recently

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 9 points 5 days ago (55 children)

When I bought my first house - doing so with decent income but pretty bad credit - I did so at 6.25%.

Everyone in the room recoiled at such an apparently high number.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 days ago

Both are heavily overpriced.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I still wonder why US houses are so expensive? I mean they are basically just a couple plywood planks slapped together, what can be so expensive about that?

Well, when 5 people own all the houses and all the land they can jack up the price and leave the houses empty.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Supply and demand. The 2008 financial crises crushed perspective home home owners and rightfully made it harder to purchase homes for people with low credit. The demand for construction slowed/stopped driving many construction businesses out of business. Now we don't have enough supply or enough construction to meet the supply. Somewhat ironically rents and prices are so high that it is economically viable to start building again. Many new apartments are being built now and for the first time in a very long time rents actually flatlined.

Beyond this there were also issues that made the problem even worse. Land lords started using the same tools to determine rent and even though they weren't directly colluding, in effect they were through the tools. Also Blackstone started buying up as much property as it could during the low interest rates during covid.

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[–] mochisuki@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Gary’s Economics has as usual many great videos about this

https://youtu.be/BJcpgg6-hNA

It sucks because this ridiculous setup distorts everything about the economy and benefits no one except banks and the rich

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

and benefits no one except banks and the rich

Ah, so you mean a typical Tuesday on earth. :/

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 days ago

It would take about 45 years to pay off the house with the monthly payment on the left. The one on the right for some reason randomly increases the monthly payment so that you'd pay off the house in around 24 years.

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Here in Australia, they just changed a lot of the tax laws. Every shonky house investor out there is freaking out telling everyone how important they are and we'll fail without them lol

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 18 points 5 days ago

Now do 2016

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Made from the finest in cardboard material that every builder has assured me has the same structural quality as brick.

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[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well, the banks can't be loaning just anyone money for a home. They need that capital to be able to give loans to billionares, so they can fund their lifestyle and allow them to avoid paying any taxes.

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