MeanwhileOnGrad

"Nazis in the Ukrainian forces" can be used in two ways. The issue is that neither is really good-faith at this point in time.

In the first sense, that there are literally some Nazis in Ukraine's armed forces, is true in every military force in Europe, and a frightening amount outside of Europe. It has the same energy as "Sweden has corruption too!" when discussing corruption in Russia - it conflates, intentionally or, rarely, unintentionally, the existence of the problem with its severity. Bringing it up, thus, is generally not much more than providing a smokescreen for the second sense.

In the second sense, that there is an exceptional Nazi problem in Ukraine's armed forces, is not a serious position. That could have been argued to be true, back in 2015, when privately-funded paramilitaries only loosely-affiliated with the government had nearly no oversight and a small amount of political influence in addition - but the rapid buildup of the Ukrainian armed forces, previously in a very dire state, in the mid-late 2010s overwhelmingly removed the radicals and integrated units with previous paramilitary associations with the Ukrainian National Guard and its recruitment standards - ie not only no longer selecting for extremist views, but explicitly selecting against extremist views, and with those who do slip through the cracks not being given a choice of what unit they are assigned to.

The most notable unit so accused, the Azov Brigade, had most of its leadership removed all the way back in 2015, when the Ukrainian government took the reigns over from the (Jewish, strangely enough) oligarch funding them. There were accusations into the late 2010s that a far-right culture persisted within the unit, and that may be to some degree true, but the accusations were necessarily always vague and largely dependent on the symbolism of the unit, retained from its paramilitary days. The unit denies that the symbol has neonazi connections, and has crafted a convincing explanation for why it's something entirely non-far-right, but even assuming that many in the unit legitimately believe that... it would be debatable whether such an anodyne Ukrainian nationalist interpretation of the symbolism was intended from the very founding of the unit. On the other hand, one of the units cofounders was Jewish, so who fucking knows.

You fall for AI slop, deep fakes and shopped photos all the time. Stfu.

You are indoctrinated. You won't be able to see it, but you are.

Have we truly been graced by the presence of an enlightened centrist, here to save us from ignorance?