Oh man, this brings back so many memories. Some of those aren’t even mine!
this post was submitted on 15 May 2026
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That never happened
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There's no proof that happened
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It's more complicated than you're describing
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Those were just some bad actors
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Okay, but that was under the Other Party. My Party would never do that
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Okay but we're reforming now. You should give us some credit!
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It's all in the past! Why do you keep bringing up Old Shit?!
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Whataboutism
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Mkultra is STILL treated like some nut job conspiracy theory.
I bring it up as example of how the government will do whatever to whoever and lie for decades, fuck the consequences.
People look at me like I'm crazy, and plenty have even straight up told me mk ulta isn't real, is just a conspiracy, just an excuse for hippies who did too many drugs, any number of "that didn't happen" excuses. Including "if it actually happened, we would know". To which I responded "THEY FUCKING ADMITTED IT" and that was the end of the conversation because I cursed and therefore lost an "argument" I didn't know I was in...
Ohio is crazy...
It was kind of an excuse for hippies who did too many drugs one if them was named Sydney gottlieb
I was happy to read that he felt like he failed in his work with the CIA.
It doesn't excuse anything but I do take great joy in him knowing that he was a failure at his lifes work in the end. For someone like him I bet that really messed with his head.
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Just outside of view:
- Human Radiation Experiments, Holmesburg Prison experiments, San Quentin Prison experiments, Stateville Penitentiary Malaria Studies, Guatemala Syphilis Experiment, Ohio State Penitentiary Cancer Study, Belmont Report
- Ludlow Massacre, Battle of Blair Mountain, Coal Wars
- Kent State Massacre, Jackson State Killings, Orangeburg Massacre
A couple of those were directly profit motivated vs the government choosing to do some f’d up stuff on their own. Yeah, government stepped in, but who started the problem isn’t the same. Either way, wealthy people pushing the government to crush the peasantry for them isn’t much difference.
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- Boarding Schools.
- Eugenics, including forced sterilization.
- Nuclear weapons.
- Internment of Japanese.
- Hiring of Nazis after WWII, after inspiring them before WWII.
Reconstruction failure, Jim Crow institutionalized which was the ultimate inspiration for the Nazis to model their claimed superior race society after.
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The US helped to found and popularize the Nazi party. Ford and other industrialist literally bank rolled the Nazi empire. Ford built factories in Germany and let them keep the profits. Nazism was very popular in the US because its policies were based off US policies.
Hitler was inspired by the way the US genocided the Native Americans. This is where the Holocaust came from. When Hitler initially decided to expel the Jews wealthy industrialists lobbied the US government not to take them in. They helped stroke anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe and ensured that no other country would take them in.
This lead to the final solution. IBM and other US companies gave material support to the Nazi. Those numbers tattooed on Jewish prisoners were from a census system IBM developed. Later, they used their computing power to figure out how many jews to ship from the ghettos to the death camps without backing anything up. Basically they handled the logistics of the Holocaust.
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I read about MK Ultra, and that is some weird, fucked up shit. Also, most of the records were destroyed, so who knows what else they got up to? Fucking monsters.
I didn't remember exactly but also Japan has that unit 731 or whatever? That was insane as well.
Nearly every country has had or currently has some wildly shady shit going on.
Yes indeed. It's almost as if power has the ability to corrupt and people aren't all inherently good.
I mean I can only imagine what's happening with Elon's neuralink tests and trials with locations so close to some of the immigration concentration camps.
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Funny you say that, guess what happened after the war, when they were captured by the Americans?
Total immunity for all their war crimes, in exchange for their research. Apart from a handful who had vivisected American pilots, anyway, but the ones who experimented on Chinese victims got off scot free.
The US would go on to employ chemical and biological warfare extensively in Korea shortly after, as well as in Vietnam.
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I've never heard about the St.Louis Poisoning before.. Surely it cant be yet another immoral, insane, evil program targeting black americans, right?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_LAC
sounds more like they released a lot of dust to check how far the wind carries it
what i don't get is why didn't they just use some non-toxic substance
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because they werent testing on white people
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cause St.Louis specifically was a weapons test for the viability of using Zinc cadmium sulfide as a weapon against moscow
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As bad as people hate to admit it, this is pretty much the direct cause of anti vax people and shit like it.
The government pretty much created the problem itself by doing this stuff.
This is why black people don't trust doctors.
antivax as a movement didnt come around until an asshole doctor lied about the safety of vaccines, to sell his own vaccine.. and took off like a rocket when that miserable Jenny McCunthy decided it had to be vaccines, and not genetics, that caused her not to give birth to the perfect blond haired blue eyed child she deserved.
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Wait until you hear about al Qaeda .... And depending on how far back you want to go... 1980?
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There is much more than that. 9/11 is not even on this list and that was a huge wake up call for millions of people. Many millions distrusted the official covid story as well, the origins of the virus.
And the current war in iran is obviously not to prevent nuclear weapons. The strait of Hormuz is not going to open for many years. Because its intended and is part of a plan for how the worlds most important resources, like oil and fertilizer, is going to be limited in order to create massive problems in the world.
The YouTube Predictive History channel is talking about all of this, and the video Trump World Order is a must watch.
Henrietta Lacks
Lacks was the unwitting source of these cells from a tumor biopsied during her treatment for cervical cancer at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, in 1951. These cells were then cultured by George Otto Gey, who created the cell line known as HeLa, which is still used for medical research.[9] As was then the practice, no consent was required to culture the cells obtained from Lacks's treatment. Neither she nor her family were compensated for the extraction or use of the HeLa cells.
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So... a funny thing actually just happened...
CIA whistleblower testifies in Congress that the CIA basically raided the DNI (Tulsi Gabbard)'s office, to retrieve various files relating to JFK and MKUltra, that Trump had actually ordered be unsealed.
Anna Paulina Luna corroborates this.
Fox News (nation wide) runs a segment on this with Jesse Waters.
Then, a bunch of people change their tune.
Paulina Luna claims her comments were misconstrued.
Gabbard denies that this happened.
Jesse Waters removes this, his own segment, from his own social media.
Gabbard's PR person says basically 'no, a raid did not happen on that day, but about a year earlier, the CIA did confiscate some documents from the DNI, and they still have them.'
... at least that is my current attempt to comprehend this.
So uh... the DNI is supposed to be in charge of the CIA.
But, if you know anything about the CIA... they do whatever the fuck they want, to whoever they want.
There is only a single example of someone ostensibly directly in charge of the CIA that actually attempted to reign in the CIA and hold it accountable, make it stop doing things it wanted to do.
His brain got painted all over Dealey Plaza, in 1963.
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Another thing that I am... confused, currently, by:
How is it possible that... there exist any MKUltra documents... that could be declassified?
In the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, in 1977, then CIA Director Stansfield Turner, explained that in 1973, the CIA Director at that time Dick Helms... ordered all the MKUltra documents to be destroyed.
But, approximately 20,000 documents were missed by this desctruction order, mostly financial and accounting documents, still remaining in basically a forgotten annex in DC.
To the best of my knowledge... those 20,000 documents are what comprise essentially the corpus of what has been discussed since 1977, they're what's been poured through to figure out who was getting paid to do what kind of work at which kind of site in whatever location, with what kinds of equipment, etc.
So... did... did we just miss some of those, somehow?
Or... did Turner lie to the Senate in '77... and... there were at that time, and still existing to the present currently... more documents than those which survived this supposed destruction order under Helms?
Like genuinely, I am misunderstanding something here, or is that not the implication of 'there do in fact exist any potentially unclassifiable MKUltra documents'?
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Well at least Operation Northwoods never happened. It was just a draft and Kennedy refused to sign it into action. Don't get me wrong, it is pretty fucked up that it came that far, but at least it never went into action.
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Funny how all the major parks in US cities and highways just happen to always destroy a minority neighborhood.
Don't forget the Phoenix project. 85k Vietnamese civilians assassinated or tortured to death by the CIA.
Ron Funches' routine was great. "You don't believe any conspiracy theories? Like, you just believe the government is batting 1.000 in terms of telling the truth?"
Don't forget operation condor and the Jakarta method
I’m actually quite curious how the next false flag will be received
Don't get it right too soon or people will call you a conspiracy theorist.
Remember, we don't do that stuff anymore, it's totally crazy to suggest that's even a possibility. Wait 20 years, it'll come out that we did, in fact, still do that stuff - but only back then. But by then we'll have stopped and it'll be totally crazy to suggest that's even a possibility. Until you wait another 20 years.
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If it's anything like the latest assassination "attempt" at Trump, with great skepticism.
Operation Windfall & Operation Pantomime
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